Words for the Week — On Jihad

Given the topic, and the current popularity of equating Jihad with war, I thought it might be good to see … Continued

Given the topic, and the current popularity of equating Jihad with war, I thought it might be good to see what the Prophet had to say about jihad.

“The best jihad is that of him who speaks a just word before a tyrannical ruler.” (reported in Tirmidhi, Abu Daud, and Ibn Majah)

During his final pilgrimage Muhammad said, “Should I inform you of who is a true believer? It is the one from whom people are secure with regards to their wealth and their persons. The true believer is one from whose tongue and hand people are safe. The Mujahid (one who wages jihad) is one who struggles against his own ego in obedience to Allah. And the Muhajir (the migrant in the Cause of Allah) is the one who abandons error and sin.” (reported in Ahmed, al-Hakeem, and Tabarani.)

Allah’s Apostle said, “The strong one is not he who overcomes people by his strength, but strong is the one who controls himself while in anger.” (reported in Bukhari and Muslim)

And when asked what is the greatest jihad, he answered, “to struggle against one’s base desires.” (narated in Bayhaqi)

And finally, a quote from the Qur’an, here translated by Muhammad Asad,

42:36 Whatever you are given now is but for the enjoyment of life in this world – whereas that which is with God is far better and more enduring. It shall be given to all who attain to faith and in their Sustainer place their trust;

42:37 and who shun the more heinous sins and abominations; and who, whenever they are moved to anger, readily forgive;

42:38 and who respond to their Sustainer and are constant in prayer; and whose rule is through consultation among themselves; and who spend on others out of what We provide for them as sustenance;

42:39 and who, whenever tyranny afflicts them, defend themselves.

42:40 But remember that requiting evil may, too, become an evil: hence, whoever par­dons his foe and makes peace, his reward rests with God, for, verily, He does not love evildoers.

42:41 Yet indeed, as for any who defend themselves after having been wronged – no blame attaches to them:

42:42 blame attaches but to those who oppress people and behave outrageously on earth, offending against all justice: for them there is grievous suffering in store!

42:43 But withal, if one is patient in adversity and forgives – this, behold, is indeed something to set one’s heart upon!

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  • ixolite

    If the greater Jihad is that of the “inner struggle” how comes, that you get more reward from allah for the “lesser” Jihad?Qur’an:4:95Bukhari:V4B52N284-5 Muslim:C40B20N4676 Bukhari:V4B52N45 Bukhari:V4B52N94 Bukhari:V4B52N43

  • Pamela

    Oh, really finally… the point of these posts is to give some insight into what in the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet inspire me. Obviously, I’m not going to post things that don’t particularly inspire me.

  • Pamela

    Oh, really finally… the point of these posts is to give some insight into what in the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet inspire me. Obviously, I’m not going to post things that don’t particularly inspire me. Or which I perceive as no longer relevant.

  • Ansar al-Zindiqi

    PAMELA:[t]he point of these posts is to give some insight into what in the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet inspire me. Obviously, I’m not going to post things that don’t particularly inspire me.ANSAR AL-ZINDIQI: You’re using the word “inspire” in a neutral sense. In order to do that there’s a bit of false consciousness that one must go by and it usually shows up when a person is faced with counter evidence to their claims. I must say that you are admitting to being extremely subjective in what “inspires” you. To the point of being a heretic by engaging in bidaa (innovation) and omitting what really inspires the “true believers”.

  • Ansar al-Zindiqi

    PAMELA:[t]he point of these posts is to give some insight into what in the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet inspire me. Obviously, I’m not going to post things that don’t particularly inspire me.ANSAR AL-ZINDIQI: You’re using the word “inspire” in a neutral sense. In order to do that there’s a bit of false consciousness that one must go by and it usually shows up when a person is faced with counter evidence to their claims. I must say that you are admitting to being extremely subjective in what “inspires” you. To the point of being a heretic by engaging in bidaa (innovation) and omitting what really inspires the “true believers”.

  • Ansar al-Zindiqi

    PAMELA:[t]he point of these posts is to give some insight into what in the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet inspire me. Obviously, I’m not going to post things that don’t particularly inspire me.ANSAR AL-ZINDIQI: You’re using the word “inspire” in a neutral sense. In order to do that there’s a bit of false consciousness that one must go by and it usually shows up when a person is faced with counter evidence to their claims. I must say that you are admitting to being extremely subjective in what “inspires” you. To the point of being a heretic by engaging in bidaa (innovation) and omitting what really inspires the “true believers”.

  • Ansar al-Zindiqi

    PAMELA:[t]he point of these posts is to give some insight into what in the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet inspire me. Obviously, I’m not going to post things that don’t particularly inspire me.ANSAR AL-ZINDIQI: You’re using the word “inspire” in a neutral sense. In order to do that there’s a bit of false consciousness that one must go by and it usually shows up when a person is faced with counter evidence to their claims. I must say that you are admitting to being extremely subjective in what “inspires” you. To the point of being a heretic by engaging in bidaa (innovation) and omitting what really inspires the “true believers”.

  • Ansar al-Zindiqi

    PAMELA:[t]he point of these posts is to give some insight into what in the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet inspire me. Obviously, I’m not going to post things that don’t particularly inspire me.ANSAR AL-ZINDIQI: You’re using the word “inspire” in a neutral sense. In order to do that there’s a bit of false consciousness that one must go by and it usually shows up when a person is faced with counter evidence to their claims. I must say that you are admitting to being extremely subjective in what “inspires” you. To the point of being a heretic by engaging in bidaa (innovation) and omitting what really inspires the “true believers”.

  • Russell D.

    Pamela Vs. other posters!Fight of the century! I put 2,000 on Pamela.

  • frank collins

    pam its not how you understand your faith. you want to pretend that you do see violence there, then come out and say, specifically, that those passages that demand hate, murder, and forced conversions, are wrong and should never be followed by anyone who says they are islamic. but you will not do that. if you did that your fellow peaceful loving islamics would put you on the “kill on sight” list. so lets pretend you are not one of those that reject the words of hate and murder, then there are still hundreds of millions that dont agree with you and in fact there are even more who stand and cheer those that do disagree with you.

  • ALM

    I have been somewhat reluctant to post on this week’s topic, because I have felt it was unnecessarily inflammatory, but the direct back and forth in this section has induced me to comment.I agree with Pamela that the adherents of a religion should have the right to understand their faith in more than one way.When you look at the great saints that have arisen out of the Muslim faith, it is clear that you CAN interpret the teachings of Islam in such a way that you transcend the world of violence and limited thinking. As examples of this, consider the teachings of Rumi and Rabia. You can google them if you wish.It is true that some great Muslim saints ended up being martyred by those who thought themselves to be more correct in their beliefs.

  • Paul

    Pamela, he is suggesting that you ommitting violent verses, and sticking to “”inspiring ones” commit bidah

  • TurnLooseTheSwans

    “Further, I have repeated time and time again, which obviously isn’t sufficient for Ross, that, yes, there are verses which pertain to war, from the stage of the Prophet’s mission. After the community was secure from attack, a different paradigm was ennuciated — that of intercommunal harmony, intermarriage, shared meals, etc.”This is untrue, Pamela. After Muhammad died in just 100 years muslims conquered : Palestine, Afghanistan, Persia, Syria, Egypt, North Africa, southern Italy, whole Spain and were stopped in… France!! None of these nations commited aggression against first muslims. Muhammad himself and the caliph Omar used to send letters to other rulers inviting them to Islam, and suggesting “insecurity” if they refused. You are in great error.

  • G.D

    If you try to understand relegion through an earthly pragmatic logic and reduce providential history to human events you would indeed miss everything about relegion. what I mean by that is, there is provedential and a spertual law that governs and takes over human law from time to time, espicialy during the course of astablishing a relegion, you will find noumeres examples of that in evry relegion especialy in christianity and even in the jewish faith as will. in other word Gods well some time takes over human well and drive an event for his own purpose. and that purpose could be somthing we can understand and it could be somthing we may never understand. God said in the Qur’an “most people are without understanding.” So let us all seak a better understanding.

  • frank collins

    its not the boards we worry about – its the ral world. i notice that pam did not reject those parts of the koran that call for forced conversions and/or murder. “4.90”: Except those who reach a people between whom and you there is an alliance, or who come to you, their hearts shrinking from fighting you or fighting their own people; and if Allah had pleased, He would have given them power over you, so that they should have certainly fought you; therefore if they withdraw from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not given you a way against them. “4.91”: You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority. PLEASE SHOW US THAT YOU ARE FOR PEACE REJECT THESE VERSES.

  • frank collins

    hey jovezy – you are pretty funny. not relevant but funny.

  • Adel

    First of all the doctrinal definition of Islam is :the pure and total submission to God .This means that even christians ,jewishes ,budhists ,bahais and zoroastrians …and so on are muslims .The difference between them is their time-chapter ,time-revelation their social context,following chronological logic suitable to human being capacity of understanding divine truth and transcanding our material world.Second ,the successive God revelations means but one thing ,that human being is not perfect ,that he/she is in pertual evolution through perpetual and graduated messages but identical in their spiritual dimension which is the religion Nature or the religion Quintessence,the God Law.Third ,graduated messages means an adequat language from the prophet of each stp to the community and the people.Mohameds’ social context is among the hostile ,violent and terrific ones .Some social analyst think that fanatism and intolerance were KORAICHITS creation .Side to the mahometan community permanent agressions ,Mohamed waited until God ordered him to declare Djihad .But Djihad at that time meant the protection of muslim community,no more, even with arms as a last recourse.It was also a faith proof and a faith act from believers done in detachment and meditation ,empty of any particle of revenge or hate.Mohamed with the God will and wisdom knew to overtake this hostile period symbolised by the peacefully opening of Mekka (ex Koraich).this peaceful atitude continued until his ascent.After his ascent, problems of power emerged that led to Muhamed’s tight friends and believers assassination and after that others .Other periods came that of human peace ,civilization construction,shining science interrupted some waves of fanatism and intolerance .But this are problems of muslims not islam.Remember islam means pure and total submission to God.In the name of God and in the name of all religions ,Peace on you .Thank you

  • Anonymous

    Pamela, Thank you for responding to posts on your thread. My question for you is:What has happened to PBS “Islam vs. Islamists”?

  • JihadSpinAdmin

    Here you can see 20 qur’an suras each time you reload the pages at http://www.jihadspin.com But here is one of my favs: “When We wish to destroy a city, we first give warning to those of itspeople who live in comfort to accept our commands. But if they reject us, judgment is irrevocably passed,and we wage utter annihilation.” (The Qur’an – Sura 17:16)

  • JihadSpinAdmin

    Here you can see 20 qur’an suras each time you reload the pages at http://www.jihadspin.com But here is one of my favs: “When We wish to destroy a city, we first give warning to those of itspeople who live in comfort to accept our commands. But if they reject us, judgment is irrevocably passed,and we wage utter annihilation.” (The Qur’an – Sura 17:16)

  • JihadSpinAdmin

    Here you can see 20 qur’an suras each time you reload the pages at http://www.jihadspin.com But here is one of my favs: “When We wish to destroy a city, we first give warning to those of itspeople who live in comfort to accept our commands. But if they reject us, judgment is irrevocably passed,and we wage utter annihilation.” (The Qur’an – Sura 17:16)

  • JihadSpinAdmin

    Here you can see 20 qur’an suras each time you reload the pages at http://www.jihadspin.com But here is one of my favs: “When We wish to destroy a city, we first give warning to those of itspeople who live in comfort to accept our commands. But if they reject us, judgment is irrevocably passed,and we wage utter annihilation.” (The Qur’an – Sura 17:16)

  • JihadSpinAdmin

    Here you can see 20 qur’an suras each time you reload the pages at http://www.jihadspin.com But here is one of my favs: “When We wish to destroy a city, we first give warning to those of itspeople who live in comfort to accept our commands. But if they reject us, judgment is irrevocably passed,and we wage utter annihilation.” (The Qur’an – Sura 17:16)

  • Friend

    Dear Pamela and Victoria, one can clearly see your posts are logical, concise and coherant. The 2 of you posses much more knowledge of Islam than the hords of people rushing here with the only purpose of insulting Islam and Muslims and acting in the most unhumane manner. Those people clearly are not out for the truth, rather to insult, bicker and fight. The Qur’an tells us of such people, they will not believe as you can see, they refuse to accept your facts on Islam and keep repeating their misconceptions and deliberate lies.Great job in refuting them, but if they keep repeating the same nonsense, its a good idea to ignore them, readers of this page can already see the huge difference betwen your logic and the hate spewed by anti-Muslims.Kind regards.

  • Friend

    Might I also add that they came from one of the most hateful sites I have ever come across on the internet, whose name was mentioned earlier, it doesnt deserve repeatition. Pamela mentioned it, anyone who goes to their forum can clearly see the vile spewed for 1.5billion people. Its unfortunate how people can be filled with so much hatred, however Islam teaches us to love God’s creation, I pray God may guide these people, Ameen.

  • frank collins

    more islamic lies – if it was not war he was refering to, but inner spirit then why did moho exempt the elderly from it as it was to hard on them? seeking perfection through your inner spirit is not hard on the body. jihad means war so just quit spreading the same islamic lies about it.

  • john smith

    Pam, it sure looks like you have been busted big time.

  • Pink Panther

    “Busted big time”? What is this, 1987?

  • tbone11

    Is there anything wrong with fighting injustice with your bodies and money? Isn’t that what armies are supposed to do? Why is everyone so quick to jump to conclusions that jihad is at every Muslims center of living? Where are the hadiths that speak of young men who went to the Prophet and wanted to join in jihad but were turned down because they had parents? Should I join the jihad?” He asked, “Do you have parents?” The man said, “Yes!” The Prophet(S) said, “then strive by (serving) them!” Sahih Al-Bukhari #5972 Jihad isn’t supposed to be some wreckless war, but rather defensive or pre-emptive in order to protect the communities. The Muslims did not conquer the Persians or North Africans. They had hardly the numbers to do that. They assimilated it’s people and gave them government roles. The Islamic empire reached the vast region of China through dimplamacy and economical ways. The real mujahideen fought against armies, not civilians. The real mujahideen were quick to initiate peace accords and pacts, not lead their people into disary as we seen in Iraq and Afghanistan.

  • JihadSpinAdmin

    Psalm (119) is a treatise on how to obtain Yahweh’s favor. It speaks of walking with Yahweh, of observing His testimony, of knowing His Word, of keeping His prescriptions, of being cleansed and becoming upright – all of which are said to flow from a singular source: Scripture. But, now that we know who Yahushua was and is, and why He came, let’s return to Matthew’s account.We find Yahushua’s disciples pointing to the Temple building and raving about it. Knowing that they are focused on the wrong Tabernacle, God says: “Truly I say to you, not one stone here shall be left upon another.” Then, “sitting with Him on the Mount of Olives [overlooking the Temple Mount] the disciples came to Him asking: ‘Tell us when will these things be, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”He answers all but one of their three questions directly, and with astonishing detail, saying that the time leading up to the last days and His physical return will be noted for “world wars, famines, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, pandemics, riotous acts of lawlessness, acts of terrorism, signs in the sky, false prophets, a lukewarm assembly or “church,” and an overall aversion to His name.” All but one of these signs defines our time. The signs in the sky have yet to appear. But they will…This list appears in both Matthew and Luke. Collectively the evangelists reveal: “Then (tote – at that time) He said, ‘Multitudes (ethnos – races, specifically Gentiles, peoples and nations; large groups based upon religious, political, cultural, or geographic ties) shall be awakened and rise up (egeiro – become aroused from a deadly sleep to stand up and make war) upon and against nations (ethnos – races and peoples), and royal rulers against royal rulers. You will hear about wars and rumors of wars. People will be terrorized (throeo – cry out loud, frightened and alarmed). And great (megas – big, powerful, and numerous) hurricanes, earthquakes, and tsunamis (seismos – shaking, commotion, rocking to and fro, and agitation on land and sea) shall come to exist (esomai) down against low (kata) places (topos – inhabited areas), and famines (limos – scarcity of harvests and food), and pestilence (loimos – infectious epidemic diseases that are virulent and devastating, destructive and pernicious plagues), and terrorist activity (phobetron – terrorism and alarming events) and great (megas) signs (semeion – indications, unusual occurrences, and wonders transcending the normal course of nature) shall be (esomai) from (apo – proceed out of) the sky (ouranos – the universe, the abode of stars, and the heavens). But (de) all these things just begin to initiate (arche) the birth pangs (odin).” (Matthew 23:6-8 and Luke 21:9-11)The evidence suggests that these seven signs are listed in some semblance of chronological order, with the World War of the 1930s and 40s, which in actuality was humanity’s only global conflict, being the first fulfillment. Also, there is no assurance that the last of the seven, the signs in the sky, will be made manifest prior to the Tribulation. As we shall soon discover, there is considerable proof, Scriptural and scientific, that an asteroid alternatively named Apsinthos/Apophis will fulfill this prophecy. Further, the reference to “birth pangs” indicates that these signs will become more frequent and will increase in intensity as the end approaches. As an example, over the last fifteen years the frequency and magnitude of hurricanes and earthquakes have more than doubled on both scales.The Second World War was similarly greater in magnitude and its travesties more frequent and widespread. The global conflict killed more people than all preceding wars combined. Today, the “rumor of war” is undoubtedly the fabricated “War of Terror,” the first conflict ever waged against a tactic rather than a known enemy. The cause of terror is Islam. This satanic religion is also the substance of the “kingdom against kingdom” portion of the prophecy. Islamic monarchs form the last bastion of royal totalitarian rule – something that requires a cooperative religion to perpetrate. And they remain in conflict with one another.The pestilence of HIV and AIDS has infected more people than any plague in human history. But a likely future fulfillment of the pandemic prediction is bird flu. The last time it spread worldwide, in 1918, 50 million people were laid waste in its wake. The current manifestation of this avian disease is predicted by world health leaders to claim as many as 200 million lives over the next twenty years.While the war on terror is a complete farce, jihadist assaults have never been as substantial or as frequent as they are today. But rest assured, they will grow in frequency and intensity. And with them we will continue to experience famines. Both are the result of Islam, a religion so impoverished it has failed to give Muslims a reason to live, only a reason to die. There has never been a productive, self-sufficient Islamic economy in any nation at any time. So as Islam spreads rapidly throughout Asia, India, and Africa lawlessness, starvation, and terror will be its constant companion.

  • JihadSpinAdmin

    Psalm (119) is a treatise on how to obtain Yahweh’s favor. It speaks of walking with Yahweh, of observing His testimony, of knowing His Word, of keeping His prescriptions, of being cleansed and becoming upright – all of which are said to flow from a singular source: Scripture. But, now that we know who Yahushua was and is, and why He came, let’s return to Matthew’s account.We find Yahushua’s disciples pointing to the Temple building and raving about it. Knowing that they are focused on the wrong Tabernacle, God says: “Truly I say to you, not one stone here shall be left upon another.” Then, “sitting with Him on the Mount of Olives [overlooking the Temple Mount] the disciples came to Him asking: ‘Tell us when will these things be, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”He answers all but one of their three questions directly, and with astonishing detail, saying that the time leading up to the last days and His physical return will be noted for “world wars, famines, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, pandemics, riotous acts of lawlessness, acts of terrorism, signs in the sky, false prophets, a lukewarm assembly or “church,” and an overall aversion to His name.” All but one of these signs defines our time. The signs in the sky have yet to appear. But they will…This list appears in both Matthew and Luke. Collectively the evangelists reveal: “Then (tote – at that time) He said, ‘Multitudes (ethnos – races, specifically Gentiles, peoples and nations; large groups based upon religious, political, cultural, or geographic ties) shall be awakened and rise up (egeiro – become aroused from a deadly sleep to stand up and make war) upon and against nations (ethnos – races and peoples), and royal rulers against royal rulers. You will hear about wars and rumors of wars. People will be terrorized (throeo – cry out loud, frightened and alarmed). And great (megas – big, powerful, and numerous) hurricanes, earthquakes, and tsunamis (seismos – shaking, commotion, rocking to and fro, and agitation on land and sea) shall come to exist (esomai) down against low (kata) places (topos – inhabited areas), and famines (limos – scarcity of harvests and food), and pestilence (loimos – infectious epidemic diseases that are virulent and devastating, destructive and pernicious plagues), and terrorist activity (phobetron – terrorism and alarming events) and great (megas) signs (semeion – indications, unusual occurrences, and wonders transcending the normal course of nature) shall be (esomai) from (apo – proceed out of) the sky (ouranos – the universe, the abode of stars, and the heavens). But (de) all these things just begin to initiate (arche) the birth pangs (odin).” (Matthew 23:6-8 and Luke 21:9-11)The evidence suggests that these seven signs are listed in some semblance of chronological order, with the World War of the 1930s and 40s, which in actuality was humanity’s only global conflict, being the first fulfillment. Also, there is no assurance that the last of the seven, the signs in the sky, will be made manifest prior to the Tribulation. As we shall soon discover, there is considerable proof, Scriptural and scientific, that an asteroid alternatively named Apsinthos/Apophis will fulfill this prophecy. Further, the reference to “birth pangs” indicates that these signs will become more frequent and will increase in intensity as the end approaches. As an example, over the last fifteen years the frequency and magnitude of hurricanes and earthquakes have more than doubled on both scales.The Second World War was similarly greater in magnitude and its travesties more frequent and widespread. The global conflict killed more people than all preceding wars combined. Today, the “rumor of war” is undoubtedly the fabricated “War of Terror,” the first conflict ever waged against a tactic rather than a known enemy. The cause of terror is Islam. This satanic religion is also the substance of the “kingdom against kingdom” portion of the prophecy. Islamic monarchs form the last bastion of royal totalitarian rule – something that requires a cooperative religion to perpetrate. And they remain in conflict with one another.The pestilence of HIV and AIDS has infected more people than any plague in human history. But a likely future fulfillment of the pandemic prediction is bird flu. The last time it spread worldwide, in 1918, 50 million people were laid waste in its wake. The current manifestation of this avian disease is predicted by world health leaders to claim as many as 200 million lives over the next twenty years.While the war on terror is a complete farce, jihadist assaults have never been as substantial or as frequent as they are today. But rest assured, they will grow in frequency and intensity. And with them we will continue to experience famines. Both are the result of Islam, a religion so impoverished it has failed to give Muslims a reason to live, only a reason to die. There has never been a productive, self-sufficient Islamic economy in any nation at any time. So as Islam spreads rapidly throughout Asia, India, and Africa lawlessness, starvation, and terror will be its constant companion.

  • JihadSpinAdmin

    Psalm (119) is a treatise on how to obtain Yahweh’s favor. It speaks of walking with Yahweh, of observing His testimony, of knowing His Word, of keeping His prescriptions, of being cleansed and becoming upright – all of which are said to flow from a singular source: Scripture. But, now that we know who Yahushua was and is, and why He came, let’s return to Matthew’s account.We find Yahushua’s disciples pointing to the Temple building and raving about it. Knowing that they are focused on the wrong Tabernacle, God says: “Truly I say to you, not one stone here shall be left upon another.” Then, “sitting with Him on the Mount of Olives [overlooking the Temple Mount] the disciples came to Him asking: ‘Tell us when will these things be, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”He answers all but one of their three questions directly, and with astonishing detail, saying that the time leading up to the last days and His physical return will be noted for “world wars, famines, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, pandemics, riotous acts of lawlessness, acts of terrorism, signs in the sky, false prophets, a lukewarm assembly or “church,” and an overall aversion to His name.” All but one of these signs defines our time. The signs in the sky have yet to appear. But they will…This list appears in both Matthew and Luke. Collectively the evangelists reveal: “Then (tote – at that time) He said, ‘Multitudes (ethnos – races, specifically Gentiles, peoples and nations; large groups based upon religious, political, cultural, or geographic ties) shall be awakened and rise up (egeiro – become aroused from a deadly sleep to stand up and make war) upon and against nations (ethnos – races and peoples), and royal rulers against royal rulers. You will hear about wars and rumors of wars. People will be terrorized (throeo – cry out loud, frightened and alarmed). And great (megas – big, powerful, and numerous) hurricanes, earthquakes, and tsunamis (seismos – shaking, commotion, rocking to and fro, and agitation on land and sea) shall come to exist (esomai) down against low (kata) places (topos – inhabited areas), and famines (limos – scarcity of harvests and food), and pestilence (loimos – infectious epidemic diseases that are virulent and devastating, destructive and pernicious plagues), and terrorist activity (phobetron – terrorism and alarming events) and great (megas) signs (semeion – indications, unusual occurrences, and wonders transcending the normal course of nature) shall be (esomai) from (apo – proceed out of) the sky (ouranos – the universe, the abode of stars, and the heavens). But (de) all these things just begin to initiate (arche) the birth pangs (odin).” (Matthew 23:6-8 and Luke 21:9-11)The evidence suggests that these seven signs are listed in some semblance of chronological order, with the World War of the 1930s and 40s, which in actuality was humanity’s only global conflict, being the first fulfillment. Also, there is no assurance that the last of the seven, the signs in the sky, will be made manifest prior to the Tribulation. As we shall soon discover, there is considerable proof, Scriptural and scientific, that an asteroid alternatively named Apsinthos/Apophis will fulfill this prophecy. Further, the reference to “birth pangs” indicates that these signs will become more frequent and will increase in intensity as the end approaches. As an example, over the last fifteen years the frequency and magnitude of hurricanes and earthquakes have more than doubled on both scales.The Second World War was similarly greater in magnitude and its travesties more frequent and widespread. The global conflict killed more people than all preceding wars combined. Today, the “rumor of war” is undoubtedly the fabricated “War of Terror,” the first conflict ever waged against a tactic rather than a known enemy. The cause of terror is Islam. This satanic religion is also the substance of the “kingdom against kingdom” portion of the prophecy. Islamic monarchs form the last bastion of royal totalitarian rule – something that requires a cooperative religion to perpetrate. And they remain in conflict with one another.The pestilence of HIV and AIDS has infected more people than any plague in human history. But a likely future fulfillment of the pandemic prediction is bird flu. The last time it spread worldwide, in 1918, 50 million people were laid waste in its wake. The current manifestation of this avian disease is predicted by world health leaders to claim as many as 200 million lives over the next twenty years.While the war on terror is a complete farce, jihadist assaults have never been as substantial or as frequent as they are today. But rest assured, they will grow in frequency and intensity. And with them we will continue to experience famines. Both are the result of Islam, a religion so impoverished it has failed to give Muslims a reason to live, only a reason to die. There has never been a productive, self-sufficient Islamic economy in any nation at any time. So as Islam spreads rapidly throughout Asia, India, and Africa lawlessness, starvation, and terror will be its constant companion.

  • JihadSpinAdmin

    Psalm (119) is a treatise on how to obtain Yahweh’s favor. It speaks of walking with Yahweh, of observing His testimony, of knowing His Word, of keeping His prescriptions, of being cleansed and becoming upright – all of which are said to flow from a singular source: Scripture. But, now that we know who Yahushua was and is, and why He came, let’s return to Matthew’s account.We find Yahushua’s disciples pointing to the Temple building and raving about it. Knowing that they are focused on the wrong Tabernacle, God says: “Truly I say to you, not one stone here shall be left upon another.” Then, “sitting with Him on the Mount of Olives [overlooking the Temple Mount] the disciples came to Him asking: ‘Tell us when will these things be, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”He answers all but one of their three questions directly, and with astonishing detail, saying that the time leading up to the last days and His physical return will be noted for “world wars, famines, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, pandemics, riotous acts of lawlessness, acts of terrorism, signs in the sky, false prophets, a lukewarm assembly or “church,” and an overall aversion to His name.” All but one of these signs defines our time. The signs in the sky have yet to appear. But they will…This list appears in both Matthew and Luke. Collectively the evangelists reveal: “Then (tote – at that time) He said, ‘Multitudes (ethnos – races, specifically Gentiles, peoples and nations; large groups based upon religious, political, cultural, or geographic ties) shall be awakened and rise up (egeiro – become aroused from a deadly sleep to stand up and make war) upon and against nations (ethnos – races and peoples), and royal rulers against royal rulers. You will hear about wars and rumors of wars. People will be terrorized (throeo – cry out loud, frightened and alarmed). And great (megas – big, powerful, and numerous) hurricanes, earthquakes, and tsunamis (seismos – shaking, commotion, rocking to and fro, and agitation on land and sea) shall come to exist (esomai) down against low (kata) places (topos – inhabited areas), and famines (limos – scarcity of harvests and food), and pestilence (loimos – infectious epidemic diseases that are virulent and devastating, destructive and pernicious plagues), and terrorist activity (phobetron – terrorism and alarming events) and great (megas) signs (semeion – indications, unusual occurrences, and wonders transcending the normal course of nature) shall be (esomai) from (apo – proceed out of) the sky (ouranos – the universe, the abode of stars, and the heavens). But (de) all these things just begin to initiate (arche) the birth pangs (odin).” (Matthew 23:6-8 and Luke 21:9-11)The evidence suggests that these seven signs are listed in some semblance of chronological order, with the World War of the 1930s and 40s, which in actuality was humanity’s only global conflict, being the first fulfillment. Also, there is no assurance that the last of the seven, the signs in the sky, will be made manifest prior to the Tribulation. As we shall soon discover, there is considerable proof, Scriptural and scientific, that an asteroid alternatively named Apsinthos/Apophis will fulfill this prophecy. Further, the reference to “birth pangs” indicates that these signs will become more frequent and will increase in intensity as the end approaches. As an example, over the last fifteen years the frequency and magnitude of hurricanes and earthquakes have more than doubled on both scales.The Second World War was similarly greater in magnitude and its travesties more frequent and widespread. The global conflict killed more people than all preceding wars combined. Today, the “rumor of war” is undoubtedly the fabricated “War of Terror,” the first conflict ever waged against a tactic rather than a known enemy. The cause of terror is Islam. This satanic religion is also the substance of the “kingdom against kingdom” portion of the prophecy. Islamic monarchs form the last bastion of royal totalitarian rule – something that requires a cooperative religion to perpetrate. And they remain in conflict with one another.The pestilence of HIV and AIDS has infected more people than any plague in human history. But a likely future fulfillment of the pandemic prediction is bird flu. The last time it spread worldwide, in 1918, 50 million people were laid waste in its wake. The current manifestation of this avian disease is predicted by world health leaders to claim as many as 200 million lives over the next twenty years.While the war on terror is a complete farce, jihadist assaults have never been as substantial or as frequent as they are today. But rest assured, they will grow in frequency and intensity. And with them we will continue to experience famines. Both are the result of Islam, a religion so impoverished it has failed to give Muslims a reason to live, only a reason to die. There has never been a productive, self-sufficient Islamic economy in any nation at any time. So as Islam spreads rapidly throughout Asia, India, and Africa lawlessness, starvation, and terror will be its constant companion.

  • JihadSpinAdmin

    Psalm (119) is a treatise on how to obtain Yahweh’s favor. It speaks of walking with Yahweh, of observing His testimony, of knowing His Word, of keeping His prescriptions, of being cleansed and becoming upright – all of which are said to flow from a singular source: Scripture. But, now that we know who Yahushua was and is, and why He came, let’s return to Matthew’s account.We find Yahushua’s disciples pointing to the Temple building and raving about it. Knowing that they are focused on the wrong Tabernacle, God says: “Truly I say to you, not one stone here shall be left upon another.” Then, “sitting with Him on the Mount of Olives [overlooking the Temple Mount] the disciples came to Him asking: ‘Tell us when will these things be, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”He answers all but one of their three questions directly, and with astonishing detail, saying that the time leading up to the last days and His physical return will be noted for “world wars, famines, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, pandemics, riotous acts of lawlessness, acts of terrorism, signs in the sky, false prophets, a lukewarm assembly or “church,” and an overall aversion to His name.” All but one of these signs defines our time. The signs in the sky have yet to appear. But they will…This list appears in both Matthew and Luke. Collectively the evangelists reveal: “Then (tote – at that time) He said, ‘Multitudes (ethnos – races, specifically Gentiles, peoples and nations; large groups based upon religious, political, cultural, or geographic ties) shall be awakened and rise up (egeiro – become aroused from a deadly sleep to stand up and make war) upon and against nations (ethnos – races and peoples), and royal rulers against royal rulers. You will hear about wars and rumors of wars. People will be terrorized (throeo – cry out loud, frightened and alarmed). And great (megas – big, powerful, and numerous) hurricanes, earthquakes, and tsunamis (seismos – shaking, commotion, rocking to and fro, and agitation on land and sea) shall come to exist (esomai) down against low (kata) places (topos – inhabited areas), and famines (limos – scarcity of harvests and food), and pestilence (loimos – infectious epidemic diseases that are virulent and devastating, destructive and pernicious plagues), and terrorist activity (phobetron – terrorism and alarming events) and great (megas) signs (semeion – indications, unusual occurrences, and wonders transcending the normal course of nature) shall be (esomai) from (apo – proceed out of) the sky (ouranos – the universe, the abode of stars, and the heavens). But (de) all these things just begin to initiate (arche) the birth pangs (odin).” (Matthew 23:6-8 and Luke 21:9-11)The evidence suggests that these seven signs are listed in some semblance of chronological order, with the World War of the 1930s and 40s, which in actuality was humanity’s only global conflict, being the first fulfillment. Also, there is no assurance that the last of the seven, the signs in the sky, will be made manifest prior to the Tribulation. As we shall soon discover, there is considerable proof, Scriptural and scientific, that an asteroid alternatively named Apsinthos/Apophis will fulfill this prophecy. Further, the reference to “birth pangs” indicates that these signs will become more frequent and will increase in intensity as the end approaches. As an example, over the last fifteen years the frequency and magnitude of hurricanes and earthquakes have more than doubled on both scales.The Second World War was similarly greater in magnitude and its travesties more frequent and widespread. The global conflict killed more people than all preceding wars combined. Today, the “rumor of war” is undoubtedly the fabricated “War of Terror,” the first conflict ever waged against a tactic rather than a known enemy. The cause of terror is Islam. This satanic religion is also the substance of the “kingdom against kingdom” portion of the prophecy. Islamic monarchs form the last bastion of royal totalitarian rule – something that requires a cooperative religion to perpetrate. And they remain in conflict with one another.The pestilence of HIV and AIDS has infected more people than any plague in human history. But a likely future fulfillment of the pandemic prediction is bird flu. The last time it spread worldwide, in 1918, 50 million people were laid waste in its wake. The current manifestation of this avian disease is predicted by world health leaders to claim as many as 200 million lives over the next twenty years.While the war on terror is a complete farce, jihadist assaults have never been as substantial or as frequent as they are today. But rest assured, they will grow in frequency and intensity. And with them we will continue to experience famines. Both are the result of Islam, a religion so impoverished it has failed to give Muslims a reason to live, only a reason to die. There has never been a productive, self-sufficient Islamic economy in any nation at any time. So as Islam spreads rapidly throughout Asia, India, and Africa lawlessness, starvation, and terror will be its constant companion.

  • frank collins

    the islamic world got as large as it did through violence and murder, not peacefully. i will not give you hundeds of lines of recent murders, but here is a history lesson about islam. but you have to read this article – its great.

  • Pamela

    Ansar al-zindiqiAre you suggesting that the words of the Qur’an and the Prophet are an innovation??Or that there is only one valid way to be a “true believer?” Even the most extreme Muslims I know do not subscribe to that theory.I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised, given your handle and your participation over at faithfreedom (which is an org of ex-Muslims dedicated to pulling Muslims out of Islam), but I’d rather let current Muslims decide if I’m really a heretic or not. Most of them seem to disagree with you.

  • Deb Chatterjee

    Pamela:May Allah be pleased with you. What you have posted about Jihad is entirely agreeable, but as Qasim pointed out that you are just focussing on the “inspiring” verses, and not the really “violent” ones.Also, I fail to see why you chose to omit the monograph of Syed Abul Ala Maudoodi JIHAD IN ISLAM and in particular page 6 of the 36 page monograph. Particularly, the last paragraph from Sayyid Qutb is quite disturbing, admittedly. However, your attempt is still honest and may you continuen to be honest in future. My fears about Islam being an inherently violent religion are all confirmed. Thank you Pamela.

  • Deb Chatterjee

    I was too quick my adulations. The Sayyid Qutb stuff which aroused my admiration was from Ross and not Pamela. Ross, a wonderful job ! Keep it up buddy !However, Pamela has truly been busted by Ross. Anyway, Pamela is still honest with her quotes by as Ansar points out she maybe guilty of “bidaah” in that she is choosy on what makes her happy and comfortable with Islam. That, again is deception as we know.But, still Pamela congratulations. Maybe you will realize that all on faithfreedom are not fools.Good luck to you.

  • Pamela

    No, I didn’t get busted. What you see here, and what happens on every post by a Muslim panelist, is certain individuals are trying to argue that there is only one way to understand Islam, to tell me that I cannot understand my faith the way I (and countless others) do in fact understand it. They are trying to say that just because some Muslims have understood things in one particular way, all Muslims must therefore understand it in the same way. Which is patently false.Further, most of the ‘information’ posted against Islam is either so obscure that the vast majority of Muslims have never heard of it, derived from repudiated sources, or are snippets designed to distort the intent and literal meaning of the passages they were taken from.Further, as I’ve said in various threads herein… there was a period of time when the Muslim community, and the Prohpet, were under attack, and fighting for their lives. Yes. This is acknowledged. And I will be honest. If China or Canada or Iran invaded America tomorrow, I would take up arms in America’s defense, so I’m ok with defensive war. However, the final stage was one of harmony and co-existence. This is clear from the Qur’an, whether or not the people posting snippets that relate to that earlier period or not wish to acknowledge it.Further, what right does anyone have to say Muslims must remain stuck in one way of understanding? Would you have said the same to the Catholics at the height of the Inquisition? Would you have said the same to Shintoist kamikaze fighters? I hope not. Rather, I would hope that people would support those who are trying to spread more the more humane teachings of Islam (or other religions.)

  • Viejita del oeste

    I think we need a new question. How about comparing the mindset of violence and intolerance with the capability for open-minded conversation?

  • frank collins

    how about islam now reject those portions of the koran that demand hate, torture, holding for ransom, murder and forced conversions. that would be a great starting point for dialogue.

  • Danny B.

    Frank says; “hey jovezy – you are pretty funny. not relevant but funny.”Now he’s an authority on relevancy too! And a condescending one at that…the irony!I guess I am wrong, but I thought this was intended to be a forum for discussion, not the Frank Collins Tired Lecture Circuit.By the way, PLEASE keep c/c/p-ing the same tired garbage over and over, I don’t have a record player anymore and I miss the sound of broken records!

  • Anonymous

    HL, “We will have a bottle of poison ready for you and see what happens dear faithful missionary when you take a swig.”When Jesus was tempted by the devil at the end of His forty day fast, Jesus said it is not right to test God. So taking a swig from the bottle of poison to please HL’s sadism would belong to the category of testing God. God does not need a death squad to spread His message of love. Christians have been warned to be on guard against death squads operating in God’s name! Christians are asked to judge people by their fruits. HL offers poison to one he imagines is a faithful Christian missionary – now does it take a rocket scientist to figure out what that means?

  • Qasim Omar

    Dear HL,And no – I’m not a missionary, not that it’s a bad thing. Some missionaries are quite lovely people.

  • Soja John Thaikattil, Sydney, Australia

    HLAccording to the Bible, this is how Jesus dealt with temptation:Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. After fasting for forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.” Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’ ”Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple, “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written: “ ‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’ “ Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’ “Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendour. “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’ “Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.(Matthew 4:1-11)

  • Anonymous

    It is so sad to witness on this board that so many people are so completely brainwashed and deluded by their faith that they cannot see that any man who murders, rapes, pillages and has sex with children is not a messenger sent from god, but is in fact a dangerous conman.

  • Mason

    This is awful. There is no allah there is only God and His son Jesus Christ who died on the cross for all of our sins and rose from the grave. He gives you every breth you breath. GLORY TO GOD ON THE HIGHEST!!! TEAR DOWN THE DOME OF THE ROCK!!! LET THE TEMPLE BE IN ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE!!!!!