Mormon Social Radicals?

While strolling through a bookstore in Salt Lake City, I came across a copy of a newspaper called The Mormon … Continued

While strolling through a bookstore in Salt Lake City, I came across a copy of a newspaper called The Mormon Worker, flipped open to a random page and read this:

“(A) Mormon president could utilize this great power to promote the values found in Mormon scripture, such as caring for the poor and needy, loving one another, both friends and enemies, and renouncing war … A look at Mitt Romney’s vision for America’s foreign policy reveals little, however, that resembles any of these most basic and central Mormon values.”

Reading the mainstream press, one would think that there are no Mormon Democrats, forget Mormon social radicals.

The Mormon Worker was founded by William Vanwagenen, a 29-year-old Salt Lake City stockbroker, Harvard Divinity School graduate, and active Mormon.

Two points if the name of his publication sounds familiar to you.

It is taken from the newspaper that Dorothy Day founded in the 1930s and served as the voice of her movement combining her faith with her focus on social justice, The Catholic Worker.

When Vanwagenen read social justice theories on his Mormon mission in Franfurt, Germany, he couldn’t help but find parallels with his Mormon faith. He delved deeper into theology and social justice theory, including the work of Dorothy Day, at Harvard Divinity School and later went to Iraq with a Christian Peacemaker Team. His Quaker roommate Tom Fox was murdered there, and Vanwagenen was kidnapped and held for nine days.

When he returned to Salt Lake, Vanwagenen said, “I kept meeting Mormons who didn’t find anyone else talking about these issues and they were leaving the church. I wanted them to know they were not alone.” Vanwagenen’s publication got a front page profile in the Religion section of the Salt Lake Tribune.

I remember my own first encounter with Dorothy Day and the Catholic Worker movement. I was a student at the University of Illinois learning about the shadow side of America – its poverty, its history of racism, its unnecessary wars – and looking for a movement that combined a critical social analysis with real-world action.

Somebody told me about St. Jude’s Catholic Worker House, and I’ll never forget the first time I stepped foot in there. It didn’t feel like a social service agency, it felt like a large family. People were cooking in the kitchen, kids of all colors were playing in the living room. A person emerged from the kitchen and asked me to stay for dinner before even asking me my name.

Over a simple but delicious meal, I learned that some of the people at St. Jude’s had given up good jobs to “live in solidarity with the poor” because that’s what they felt commanded to do by their faith. Others were recent immigrants from Mexico or people who had fallen on hard times and needed a place to stay. Dorothy Day’s philosophy was that if every Christian had a “Christ room” in their home, there wouldn’t be any homelessness.

Reading Dorothy Day and spending time at Catholic Worker Houses was the first step of my personal faith journey, a journey which ultimately led me back to the faith of my ancestors – Islam. I learned about the work that my Muslim grandmother does with victims of domestic violence in India. I discovered the writing of Muslim social justice heroes and towering intellectuals like Farid Esack, Ebrahim Moosa and Fazlur Rahman. It’s a story that I tell at length in my essay, A Muslim at the Catholic Worker .

Heroes from other faith traditions have a strange way of showing you places that you never saw in your own. As Marcel Proust wrote: “The true journey of discovery is not in discovering new landscapes but in developing new eyes.”

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  • Eric

    I agree with Russell’s comments. I think many people would be surprised to see how much diversity — political, racial, social — there is within the LDS church.

  • Daniel Oaks

    There is extensive Mormon doctrine regarding these issues, that Mr. Vanwagenen ignores.Consider for example this talk by President Romney:Or this collection of talks by Romney, Clark, and Benson:Orthodox Mormons are opposed to fiscal liberalism not because we have placed higher priority upon social issues, but because fiscal liberalism (ie socialism) is seen as a deception of the devil.

  • Russell

    Thank you, my friend. I myself am an active Latter Day Saint. While I certainly call myself as orthodox as they come (I suppose that depends on what makes ‘orthodoxy’ tick–read G.K. Chesterton for a riveting description), I recoil at the knee-jerk conservatism of some of my fellow adherents. While I do not hold Harry Reid up as a model of a Mormon democrat, you are correct in noting that they do exist–and they are quite faithful. I’ll say this, since I get the first word in–anyone who comments on this post, claiming that Church is any way bound to the Republican juggernaut is, at best, ill-informed. One might quote Ezra Taft Benson and Delbert L. Stapley to day’s end, but such quotes are simply not representative of the gospel message–and I think I know a bit of more of what my church believes than most of our critics do. Interestingly, many members who had SERIOUS issues with Ezra Taft Benson becoming the prophet were startled with joy when that saw that the political Benson simply melted away upon him becoming prophet). Indeed, James E. Faust was himself a prominent Democrat during his days as an attorney, even serving on a committee called by Kennedy to support civil rights (even if Kennedy was himself reticent to broach the topic).I commend this author for doing his part to stop the absurd stereotypes of Mormons as a bunch of knuckle-dragging Republican hacks. There’s diverse thought within Mormonism; yet, we seek to accept and follow Christ with all our hearts. On the issue of Mormonism, I can ASSURE you that the MSM is just dead wrong.

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Eboo,You are obsessed with other religions. Please address the flaws in the founders and foundations of Islam before commenting on the flaws of others.Once again for your perusal and comments:Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, hallucinating Arab who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added “angels” and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers. This agenda continues as shown by the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic train bombers in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani koranics, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases and the Filipino koranics. And who funds these acts of terror? The Islamic Shiite Terror Theocracy of Iran, the Third Axis of Evil and also the “Wannabee” Sunnis of Saudi Arabia.

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Eboo,You are obsessed with other religions. Please address the flaws in the founders and foundations of Islam before commenting on the flaws of others.Once again for your perusal and comments:Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, hallucinating Arab who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added “angels” and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers. This agenda continues as shown by the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic train bombers in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani koranics, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases and the Filipino koranics. And who funds these acts of terror? The Islamic Shiite Terror Theocracy of Iran, the Third Axis of Evil and also the “Wannabee” Sunnis of Saudi Arabia.

  • Chaplain Mary Murphy Former VA and Prison Chaplain

    What a John l4:12 experience “Greater works will you do than I (Dorothy Day) as I go to My Father” to have this precious Morman share a faith we so need to study; i.e., the cooperative spirit of the early communities – “Having all things in common” – Now we need to continue Dorothy’s call, with Bishop George Roche Evans (1922-1985) ORDINATION OF WOMEN

  • Raymond Takashi Swenson

    Back before the national Democratic Party decided to make unlimited abortion and hatred of the armed forces its litmus tests, Democrats had equal influence with Republicans in Utah. Many leaders of the LDS Church, like First Presidency Hugh B. Brown, were known as Democrats, just as Ezra Taft Benson, an apostle and Secretary of Agriculture for Eisenhower, was known for being a conservative Republican. Oscar McConkie, brother of apostle Bruce McConkie, was a Democrat, Speaker of the Utah House, a leading attorney for the Church, and chairman of JFK’s campaign in Utah. You still get popular but conservative Democrats in offices like governor and representative from the congressional district around Salt Lake City. Even Republican Mormons like Orrin Hatch support social welfare legislation like medical care for children of the poor, and aid to “downwinders” ion the West exposed to radioactive fallout from nuclear bomb tests. If the Democratic Party nationally could ever decide that it no longer delights in the killing of babies, and no longer opposes the occasional killing of terrorists by the Army, it could receive support from a lot of Mormons.

  • cosmopolitician

    I am an active Mormon and liberal Democrat who had never heard of the Mormon Worker, so I thank you for your column. The cultural conservatism with which Mormons are associated is not doctrinal, and I glad to see that fact highlighted here.

  • Tim

    Arif says: “The problem; we all know that a practicing Muslim believes in Islamic law, that the Koran and Allah’s laws (Sharia) are above all.”This in a nutshell is the basic problem with Islam. I also agree with the other comments made by Arif and think they are a great summary of the issues that make Islam obsolete. Some in Islam think that the West wants to destroy Islam. No this is not the case. In the natural course of nature things must evolve or die. If something is obsolete it dies. You are fighting evolution because so many things that are wrong with Islam are hard-coded into the DNA by a prophet who said nothing could ever be changed and that he was the last prophet. The last prophet created a catch 22 for anyone who would want to bring Islam into the modern world. This leaves Islam between a rock and a hard place. Either everyone looks the other way and agrees to some very extensive mystical interpretations of the words and deeds of the prophet or the faithful need to totally ignore the literal words, if Islam is to enter the modern world. This probably won’t happen so our best policy will be containment, which is BTW what our ancestor have practiced for centuries. Nothing much has changed except for the discovery of vast amounts of oil in the 1950’s. Its hard to contain something that has what you need and ends up with billion of dollars for doing virtually nothing creative other than poking a hole in the ground.

  • John D the First

    Daniel Oaks ignores the official position of political neutrality held by the church. He also ignores the various democrats in high leadership positions in the church. As a Mormon I am pleased to see the radical elements of our faith being discussed at a time when the conservative elements are all that seem hold sway in the minds of Mormons and non-Mormons alike. Mormonism fails to fit into political mold offered by the left or the right, it is its own system of thought which incorporates elements of both. As Elder Oaks (not to be confused with Daniel Oaks) of the quorum of the twelve apostles says “I find some wisdom in liberalism, some wisdom in conservatism…—but I find no salvation in any of them.”Best, Jd1

  • John D the First

    Daniel Oaks ignores the official position of political neutrality held by the church. He also ignores the various democrats in high leadership positions in the church. As a Mormon I am pleased to see the radical elements of our faith being discussed at a time when the conservative elements are all that seem hold sway in the minds of Mormons and non-Mormons alike. Mormonism fails to fit into political mold offered by the left or the right, it is its own system of thought which incorporates elements of both. As Elder Oaks (not to be confused with Daniel Oaks) of the quorum of the twelve apostles says “I find some wisdom in liberalism, some wisdom in conservatism…—but I find no salvation in any of them.”Best, Jd1

  • SFMom

    Eboo: You don’t mention it in your

  • Joshua

    It’s true that LDS doctrine supports a wide range of political positions. However, it’s unfortunate that this article highlights Will VanWagenen, whom I know personally and with whom I have spent many hours in discussion. This young man is a mediocre intellect who epitomizes the inconsistency, contradiction, and even hypocrisy which confines the hopes for any kind of social justice to the far left fringes.

  • George Sutton

    Those who know the Mormon church as I do, know that the church is a religious organization, not a political party, and that it teaches that its members must make up their own minds on political matters.The confusion on this issue stems, I think, from the fact that Utah, the home base of the Mormon church, is located in the west-central part of the United States, which has always been, and especially is now, culturally and politically conservative. Thus, observers from outside Utah, who notice the state’s politics, make the incorrect assumption that the state’s conservative politics is due to its predominant religion. In fact, the state’s conservatism is due to its geography.I know this because, due to my employment, I have lived in many different parts of the U.S. and the world. When I lived in Oklahoma, most members of the church where I attended were Democrats at heart who, like most Oklahomans, voted Republican in federal elections. In Louisiana, most members of the Mormon church were very much Democrats, the exceptions being Mormons who had moved to Louisiana from Utah, Idaho or Arizona. In Boston, it was the same, with transplants from Utah, Idaho and Arizona being the exception from the general (Democrat) rule. When we lived in England, the vast majority of church members were Laborites who disliked Margaret Thatcher and her Tory Party. One church member, who was as active and faithful a Mormon as one could find, was an old-style communist, who disliked Tony Blair’s “New Labor” because it had struck from the Labor Party Charter the “government as the owner of the means of production” paragraph, which had been so dear to her and her late husband’s hearts.I could go on, but my point is that the Mormon Church teaches religion, while it expects its members to apply their religion to their daily lives — including their political preferences — as they see fit.

  • David Hubble

    I am an active Mormon, an active duty soldier on my second tour in Iraq (this time a 15 month-er) and a VERY strong social Democrat. I do find myself in the minority, though. MOST of my fellow Mormon friends are very Republican, and very strong social conservatives. I never stop laughing when I hear southern evangelicals question Romney’s social conservative stance. For 35 years of my life, many people have poked fun at my squeeky clean life style. Heck, I don’t even watch rated R movies… and now I blink in amazement at ignorant evangelicals who question Mormon values. I served an LDS mission in the Bible Belt of Virginia, and the same suspicious people that slammed the doors in my face back then are slamming the doors on Romney out of ignorance. If evangelicals ever got past their religious bigotry, they would be shocked to find that Romney is exactly what the doctor ordered for them. Thank You evangelicals, your ignorance has given this Mormon Democrat the last laugh! I don’t want Romney because I KNOW how socially conservative he is!

  • Patrick

    My experience’s of the Mormon Church is the LDS Church was racist u ntil the government required the LDS to change their memebrshipo guidelines; allow blacks to join LDS; which of course Blacks do not want.I would consider the Mormons to be social conservatives like the evangelics, only the Mormons believe in Joseph Smith’s intrepretation and not other’s intrerpretation of the Bible.Patrick

  • rgillespie

    I read recently an article that looked at the homes built in New Orleans as a result of Katrina and the religious organizations that were responsible for the job getting done. Some denominations had constructed over 1,000 homes. The Mormons were credited with completing none… zero.

  • rgillespie

    I read recently an article that looked at the homes built in New Orleans as a result of Katrina and the religious organizations that were responsible for the job getting done. Some denominations had constructed over 1,000 homes. The Mormons were credited with completing none… zero.

  • jethro

    shorter RGILLESPIE: several family members of mine who are mormon participated in NOLA cleanup and reconstruction efforts as part of an organized church effort. btw, the catholic church seems to be “best” at a few too many things, RGILLESPIE.

  • Spencer

    As a devout member of the LDS church, I find Mr. Vanwagenen’s ideas interesting, and do not disagree with the content of his argument. However, I do disagree with whether government ought to be involved.And to respond to a point made by Patrick re: LDS church being racist…The government did not force the LDS church to alter its policy. In fact, any such government action would unconstitutional on First Amendment and other grounds. Read statement from LDS church leaders in the 50s and 60s supporting the civil rights movement, and read a recent discourse from current Church President Gordon B. Hinckley re: the evils of racism. The Church never banned blacks from being members (indeed look at Africa where droves of Africans are joining the LDS church). The LDS church restricted the extension of the “priesthood” to blacks, and that was for, to my understanding, a misinterpretation of the notion of lineage. At any rate, I’m glad to see Mormons that are not Republican. We need them.

  • Henry James

    While it is true that the Church does not “officially” hold “political positions” (except on Gay rights and the ERA and other social issues)it is ALSO true that Mormons are overwhelmingly Republican. Utah is the most republican state in the Union.That’s fine. It’s a free country. But to represent the mass of Mormons as anything but republican/conservative is ludicrous, a few democratic congressmen to the contrary.And a social radical, with or without a brain, is a very rare Mormon bird.

  • Tom Boyer

    Daniel Oaks: > Orthodox Mormons are opposed to fiscal liberalism > … because fiscal liberalism (ie socialism) is Of course, why bother even considering Vanwagenen’s ideas about Christianity? One can can always fall back on: the Devil wants to raise your taxes! And who is the source of this knowledge of God’s word? Invariably it comes from some conservative religious patriarch who lives in a mansion, pays no taxes at all, and talks to God every morning over breakfast.How simple and convenient it all is.

  • Russell

    I figured it wouldn’t take long for another distortion or two to rise to the top 🙂 I won’t reiterate my credentials as a full-fledged member of the faith, so I’ll just that fiscal liberalism IS NOT considered evil and is indeed embraced by many good members of the faith. A relative of mine, former (and late) Senator Gunn McKay, was quite liberal fiscally yet was considered a model public servant to those Latter Day Saints who knew him.And after checking the websites listed, it becomes quite apparent that 1) these statements are NOT doctrine. They are insights–thoughtful and profound–that came from an individual LDS leader and 2) socialism is not fiscal liberalism to mainstream Latter Day Saints. All that said, the cited statements are essentially correct–we do encourage those in need to utilize church welfare services. We believe that it is superior to the government services (Reagan thought it was the model program). But obviously, not everyone agrees with us–plus, I believe in an essential separation between the church and state. If the gov’t were to place the Church at the head of the welfare system, 1) that would constitute to many an “established religion” and 2) the church would go bankrupt fast. We simply don’t have the resources now to cover it all. So in the meantime, let’s allow the government to help us however imperfectly they can.

  • HillRat

    There are at least two core Mormon values long at odds with each other: 1) the cultural conservativism inherent in much of intermountain western history and politics; and 2) principals of inherent social justice taught by Christ in all scripture accepted by Mormons.These two core values have long been at odds, but because the organizational leadership of the Church remains dominated by western conservative political values, the other core value remains subservient, even though the principles of Christ’s social justice dominate Sunday Mormonism.Not hard to understand, but hard to accept and fairly challenging to live within a culture so overwhelmingly dominated by the ‘wrong’ values for some of us.

  • David B

    As a fully faithful, practicing, believing (dare I say orthodox?) Mormon who’s also a sociopolitical liberal, I’ve done a bit of research on this. Judging from statements in official church publications, Mormon culture in the US certainly now leans right (though not as far right as it did three decades ago!), but it hasn’t always been so–if you go back just three or four decades further, Mormon culture leaned left–a cyclical thing, perhaps.Unfortunately (at least, unfortunately as I see it), we now live in an age where it’s all too easy for people like Daniel Oaks (and, I’m sure, like me) to lock themselves into an echo chamber where they can easily only run into stuff that reinforces their own opinions. The end result? Mormons who differ on sociopolitical issues who call each other apostates and heretics and ignorant of doctrine rather than recognizing that societies and their politics are but temporary and unimportant next to the glory of the kingdom of God.

  • Russell

    Whoever wrote that last post is stark raving mad.

  • Michael

    Thank you Mr. Patel for a story that promoted considered understanding instead of reader-bating contention. What a breath of fresh air in the current climate of political/religious discussion! I felt like I learned more about socially progressive ideas across a number of faiths, not just my own, which happens to be Mormonism.The only thing I would take issue with in your story is your uncritically quoting a biased source to define Romney’s social views. I do not personally support Romney because of his unfortunate decision not to take a principled stand on the U.S. use of torture. However, I find much to admire in Mr. Romney’s moderate views on health care and effective and accountible government social programs. Truthfully, I think playing to the base will come back to haunt Romney the same way it haunted Gore in 2000. I am saddened that political moderation is so buffetted by the exigencies of party primaries. As a talented member of the media, you can help reverse this trend by preserving the candiates often nuanced ACTUAL views of issues against the broad brush strokes used to paint their ALLEGED views by their opposition.

  • Whatever…

    Here’s the proof that your incessant and repetitive posting of your own tripe (ad infinitum) is just message board “mast*rbation”:”You are obsessed with other religions.”Projection…like you’re not?!”Please address the flaws in the founders and foundations of Islam before commenting on the flaws of others.”He makes NO comment on the flaws of other religions, quite the opposite. The only criticism is of the mainstream media, and maybe non-advocates of the disenfranchised.You didn’t even read this article. You just post that crap to satisfy yourself, it’s so gross!

  • Ron Madson

    I consider myself a devout, practicing Mormon and always have been. As to Mitt Romney, I have a natural strong inclination to support a fellow member of our faith, but I find his militaristic views (increase military) and human rights perspective (double Guantanomo) not only troubliing but grossly inconsistent with the foundations of our Christian faith. Will Van Wagenen spoke at our book club several weeks ago and I have read the first publication of the Mormon Worker which I believe is aligned to the highest aspirations of our faith that demands of us in our scriptures to “denounce war and proclaim peace” and to not let any beggar put up his “petition in vain.” I am confident that this new publication will continue to attract support even in this reddest of red states.

  • Jon Donovan

    Mr Patel;Your last paragraph says…”Heroes from other faith traditions have a strange way of showing you places that you never saw in your own. As Marcel Proust wrote: “The true journey of discovery is not in discovering new landscapes but in developing new eyes.”My reaction is,if Proust’s observation is a good one,try developing the ‘new eyes’ of the atheist,which assumes there is no supernatural world,and no gods.This would provide you with a perspective uncluttered with religious mumbojumbo and thus a completely fresh vision of the world.

  • Russell

    Hrolfer:”God is white, republican and lives in Salt Lake City.” A joke of course but told everywhere by mormons about themselves. (Ever hear it? Of course you have.)Yes I have heard it…though never once from a Mormon (you don’t have to believe me…after all, I’m just cyber bytes to the outside world). In my years upon years in the church (and I am not without an uncritical eye), I have only on the rarest of occasions heard politics preached from the pulpit (either re: gay marriage or those random occasions where the local loose cannon goes off about their pet topioc)In any case, you have given us absolutely no reason to buy your arguments. ON the other hand, I can point to James E. Faust (a member of the First Presidency and prominent Democrat in his day), Hugh B. Brown (another member of the same body–a valiant fighter for civil rights even when others in the same said body were skiddish about them), and Harry Reid (though I would never point to him as a model spokesperson for a MOrmon democrat). The weight of evidence and past experience is against you. Look to any public statement by the church…you will not find Republicans mentioned anywhere (though there was, arguably, one slip of the tongue by President Hinckley–a slip for which he quickly apologized). Please do read up on what you claim before you start making these blanket accusations.

  • Rationalist

    Hello Eboo Patel,

  • Roy, Chiapas Mexico

    The book cherry picked Mormon scripture for its own agenda. Although Mormons do take care of their own poor, their social agenda is that of the neocons and other Christian extremists. Their politics are right-wing and support war and oppose welfare. This article is 180 degrees misleading.

  • Roy

    Mormon leadership and most of its members are right-wing neocons who blindly support the war and oppose government welfare. Although, they take care of their own, this is the Church of Ezra Taft Benson. Romeny has now flip-flopped toward this neocon side and this is what we can expect from him, too. The book mentioned cherry picked Mormon scripture for its own agenda much as Dobson, Roberston, Craig, Vitter et. al. cherry pick scripture from the Bible for theirs.

  • Roy

    Mormon leadership and most of its members are right-wing neocons who blindly support the war and oppose government welfare. Although, they take care of their own, this is the Church of Ezra Taft Benson. Romeny has now flip-flopped toward this neocon side and this is what we can expect from him, too. The book mentioned cherry picked Mormon scripture for its own agenda much as Dobson, Roberston, Craig, Vitter et. al. cherry pick scripture from the Bible for theirs.

  • s kiwi

    Dr Patel, Thank you for giving your readers a well considered piece to thnk about, soemthing that few here hacve deonstrated they deserve.

  • Tom

    I think Jozevz et al speaks for all Mormons, and enough said!

  • s kiwi

    Dr Patel, Thank you for giving your readers a well considered piece to think about, something that few here have demonstrated they deserve.

  • Tom

    But all these commentators are ignoring the power of magic underwear!

  • Tom

    This is probably the silliest board of all time, but the most fun! It attracts the fish into the barrel, so we can shoot them!

  • Tom

    “Back before the national Democratic Party decided to make unlimited abortion and hatred of the armed forces its litmus tests”OH PLEASE!! WHAT A SYCOPHANTIC PISSANT REPUBLICAN MORMON MORON!

  • Sam

    It is with disappointment that I write this note. First I was not born a mormon. I became a mormon 30 years ago. I was once one among many who had alot of bad and negative things to say about the mormons. In 1956 a great storm devastated my country. So much so that there was practically nothing left on the island. The first help to arrive on the island was one by the mormons. And no, they did not take care of the mormons but infact took care of everyone on the island. This they did for over a month and continued on for about 6 months. The US of A did not arrive until three weeks later. As a practicing mormon, I have been to many unsolicited missions to many different areas to include OK during different disasters. In fact, during one of those disasters, a reporter did the mormons the greatest favor when she announced during her news report that there were only two churches represented during the two weeks she was there. These two religions were the Mormons and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It is important to note that these two were of the same origins. The mormons are infact the same sect as the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I know with out a doubt that the Mormons were in New Orleans during Karina and during all the ones that happened during the last 50 years of my life time. And you can take that to the bank. If all of you who have any doubt, do your home work prior to opening your trap. You will find that history will say otherwise of the mormons. I recommend you read the book for your self and then ask GOD if you believe in one, and you will have an answer for your self instead of taking others comments as fact. Those who try to destroy the book do so for they have a lot to lose. They are those who make good money making sure they do not lose their livelihood.Let it also be known also that Church Prophet has and consistently made it clear that each individual mormon must stand and vote with his or her heart. They do not encourage any one to vote republican.I for one am a Democrat who is about to become a third party due to many things going on with the two main party system. By the way I have been asked by both republicans and democrats to run on their tickets and have refused since they do not support the voice of the people but their own parties. I belive I speak for thousands if not millions of us who would like the government to support the people insteat of the special interest groups and the ultra rich of this great nation who live off of the blood of the poor who consistently die and spend their blood, sweat, and tears for this great nation. For now a Mormon, Democrat, Retired Military, and a US PATRIOT.

  • Sam

    It is with disappointment that I write this note. First I was not born a mormon. I became a mormon 30 years ago. I was once one among many who had alot of bad and negative things to say about the mormons. In 1956 a great storm devastated my country. So much so that there was practically nothing left on the island. The first help to arrive on the island was one by the mormons. And no, they did not take care of the mormons but infact took care of everyone on the island. This they did for over a month and continued on for about 6 months. The US of A did not arrive until three weeks later. As a practicing mormon, I have been to many unsolicited missions to many different areas to include OK during different disasters. In fact, during one of those disasters, a reporter did the mormons the greatest favor when she announced during her news report that there were only two churches represented during the two weeks she was there. These two religions were the Mormons and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It is important to note that these two were of the same origins. The mormons are infact the same sect as the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I know with out a doubt that the Mormons were in New Orleans during Karina and during all the ones that happened during the last 50 years of my life time. And you can take that to the bank. If all of you who have any doubt, do your home work prior to opening your trap. You will find that history will say otherwise of the mormons. I recommend you read the book for your self and then ask GOD if you believe in one, and you will have an answer for your self instead of taking others comments as fact. Those who try to destroy the book do so for they have a lot to lose. They are those who make good money making sure they do not lose their livelihood.Let it also be known also that Church Prophet has and consistently made it clear that each individual mormon must stand and vote with his or her heart. They do not encourage any one to vote republican.I for one am a Democrat who is about to become a third party due to many things going on with the two main party system. By the way I have been asked by both republicans and democrats to run on their tickets and have refused since they do not support the voice of the people but their own parties. I belive I speak for thousands if not millions of us who would like the government to support the people insteat of the special interest groups and the ultra rich of this great nation who live off of the blood of the poor who consistently die and spend their blood, sweat, and tears for this great nation. For now a Mormon, Democrat, Retired Military, and a US PATRIOT.

  • Phil Runkel

    >the newspaper that Dorothy Day founded in the >1930s and served as the voice of her >movement… The Catholic Worker is still being published by the New York City CW community.

  • Roger

    Jacob Jozevz – your post is religious drivel and 99% wrong.

  • roger

    Romney is a Mormon, he is not Mormonism and he is not responsible for behaving in any way his conscience does not direct him. ultimately he will answetr to god and to god alone, certainly not to an ill-informed blogger.