Israel/Palestine: Which Side Are You On?

There will be two commemorations this week in the Middle East. For Israelis, joy at the birth of their state. … Continued

There will be two commemorations this week in the Middle East. For Israelis, joy at the birth of their state. For Palestinians, sorrow for what they call the Naqba, or catastrophe.

And no doubt, all week, we will be reading the opinions of people on both sides. Each article will ask, implicitly or explicitly, which side are you on?

Consider these pieces in Sunday’s Los Angeles Times, two views on the recent history of the region.

Saree Makdisi wrote:

“All that matters are the facts on the ground, of which the most important is that – after four decades of intensive Jewish settlement in the Palestinian territories it occupied during the 1967 war – Israel has irreversibly cemented its grip on the land on which a Palestinian state might have been created.”

And now the other side, by Benny Morris:

“(After December 2000) the Palestinians unleashed an open-ended terroristic assault on Israel, its restaurants and buses and marketplaces. For Israelis, each suicide bomber was a microcosm of what the Palestinians intended for the Jewish state as a whole.”

Every time I read the two sides on the Middle East conflict, I can’t help but notice a strange resemblance in their narratives. There is the common sense of gloom, for one. There is, of course, the mutual finger-pointing. And there is the insistence that the core identity of the other is inherently violent, that the people over there are simply dominating by nature – and therefore must be stopped at all costs

Here is Makdisi:

“What room is there for the Palestinians in this vision of Jewish entitlement to the land? None. They are regarded, at best, as a demographic ‘problem’.”

And Morris:

“The problem was not what Israel did but what Israel was – a Jewish state, a democracy, an outpost of Westernism and modernity in a world that abhorred the West.”

Most Sundays, I would have just shook my head and flipped the page. I’ve heard it all before. We all have. Each side has a library full of facts and stories championing their cause, and demonizing the other side.

But on Saturday, at the Pangea Day Film Festival in Los Angeles, I saw things that flipped the script. I watched a segment of Encounter Point, a film about Israelis and Palestinians who are part of the Bereaved Families Forum. Each lost an immediate relative in the conflict, but they had decided that forgiveness was the weapon they would wield instead of revenge.

Robi Damelin, an Israeli mother read a letter she had sent to the family of the man who murdered her son: “Nothing for me is more sacred than human life. No revenge or hatred can ever bring my child back … We are looking for ways to create a dialogue, with a long-term vision of reconciliation.”

I watched a conversation between two members of Combatants for Peace, former Israeli and Palestinian fighters who are tired of the insanity of the cycle of violence and committed to building a just peace. Bassam Aramin spoke of the daughter he lost in the conflict, and of his commitment to peace. “Since 2000, we lost one thousand Palestinian kids, and at the same time one hundred and ninety-seven Israeli kids have been killed. These are innocent people. They don’t want to be part of this conflict. We have to protect them.”

As I read all the gloom and the blame from the traditional two sides this week, each more interested in pointing fingers at the other than pointing to the future together, I will remember the courage and hope of the Israelis and Palestinians I listened to this weekend.

That’s the side I am on.

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  • Sarjit

    Muslims want another country to become 100 percent Islamic and all the Jews killed or driven out. Jews did not blow up Germans while they were being gassed by them (read about a grand Mufti offering free access of Jews to Hitler in 1940s if he ever got to Palestine- this is way before Israel was created)This is all about land and what the prophet said; wherever Muslims live, that should be the dominant religion. Look around the world.At least the “Jewish” state has millions of Muslims living inside who are much better off than their neighbors. By not taking the side of Israel, Eboo Patel is indirectly siding with the murderous terrorists.

  • Quinn

    Judy Smith: Stuff it !

  • Andrew

    captn_ahab:Nicely done. You lay out the case better than anybody I’ve seen so far, and is especially better considering the 5 billion hotheads that usually take up this type of forum. It is a question of give and take on both sides, with both definitely having to sacrifice much (of their radical ideals) in order to achieve peace. Israel isn’t going away, and neither is Palestine, and what we must do is sit down and find the reasonable answers to questions such as the ones you posed.

  • Sofia

    Some posters seem to have a very simplistic view of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.Palestinian Christians were kicked out by Israel, too; many want to go back to their homes. Jews in Arab countries like Egypt were kicked out because of Israel; many did not want to go to Israel, and some still hope for a return to their real home countries.This is not a black-and-white Muslims v. Jews issue. Some terrorist organizations are making it out to be such an issue, but that’s not the whole picture. Religion aside, this is an upheaval of many groups of people just because of one territory. Taking sides is a little more nuanced than some would think.Israel isn’t going anywhere; blame and revenge aren’t going to help anyone now, and too many innocent lives have been lost on both sides. Nice article, Mr. Patel! (and nice save, Arabist!)

  • Ibrahim Mahfouz

    There is no way to explain away the eviction of 750,000 people from their homes. Most were evicted by force of arms and some were intimidated to leave, but all were prevented from returning. They are Christian and Muslim Palestinians.

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    If only the Jews of Israel and Muslims of Palestine could come to grips with the “fems” of their religions!!!

  • Garak

    Oy! You got your facts backwards. The Arab states did NOT expel their Jews in 1948. That is Zio-fascist propaganda. See “Hitching a ride on the magic carpet: Any analogy between Palestinian refugees and Jewish immigrants from Arab lands is folly in historical and political terms,” by Yehouda Shenhav (professor at Tel Aviv University, editor of Theory Criticism, an Israeli journal in the area of critical theory and cultural studies) (Haaretz, Aug. 15, 2003).What chutzpah! Israel uses mass terror to ethnically cleanse Palestine, then denies it and falsely accuses others of Israel’s own crimes! David Irving and Joseph Goebbels would be proud! And envious! Talk about a blood libel!There can be NO peace as long as Israel denies its own history.

  • Michael O.

    Sofia and her well-balanced views of history.”Palestinian Christians were kicked out BY Israel.” Whereas:”Jews in Arab countries like Egypt were kicked out BECAUSE OF Israel”In other words, both are Israel’s fault.And if you truly believe that those Jews who were kicked out of Arab countries “still hope for a return to their real home countries” I’ve got a nice bridge to sell you.

  • Yaakov Sullivan

    As a Catholic Jew who is married to a Moslim man I can say only peace Shalom, Salaam!

  • Yaakov Sullivan

    As a Catholic Jew who is married to a Moslim man I can say only peace Shalom, Salaam!

  • harold

    hundred and twentyAnd the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.“Lord said, My spirit”And Moses went and spake these words unto all Israel.“I am an hundred and twenty years old this day”So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord.“So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab”And the man said unto Eli, I am he that came out of the army, and I fled to day out of the army. And he said, What is there done, my son?“he had judged Israel forty years”David was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty years.“David he reigned forty years”“Lord said, My spirit”“Lord said, My spirit”“Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom”Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,“David the son of Jesse”“Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom”How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?“But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:”Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.“Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.”And Solomon said, Thou hast shewed unto thy servant David my father great mercy, according as he walked before thee in truth, and in righteousness, and in uprightness of heart with thee; and thou hast kept for him this great kindness, that thou hast given him a son to sit on his throne, as it is this day.“but hast asked for thyself understanding to discern judgment”And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon himthe spirit of wisdom and understandingthe spirit of counsel and mightthe spirit of knowledgeof the fear of the Lordhe shall not judge after the sight of his eyeshere is the secretconvert

  • Quinn

    Garak: Help clear up my confusion. Did Arab Jews leave their native Arab lands on a magic carpet ? Did they just shuffle off ? Did their Muslim Bros beg them to stay, or help them along? Did they confiscate Jewish property and kill Jews ? Did they burn Jewish temples ? I fear you are trying to create more Arab fiction and speakeath Islamofascist propaganda. Thewre will be no peace until the Arabs learn their own history. Nice try though.

  • Unveiled Truth

    Well said Sarjit

  • TRUE BELIEVER

    It’s doesn’t matter, because Jesus will be coming back within the next 25 years!!! The return of the Sons of Jacob to the Holy Land signals the beginning of the end times and the tribulations.Read your bibles, folks. If you’re already saved, great, if you aren’t (Jews, Muslims, Catholics, miscellaneous), invite Christ into your life to avoid the horrible days ahead!!

  • Homer Al Simpsonberg

    But it’s HIS fault!!!

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    True Believer,Paul tried the “imminent coming” con 2000 years ago. It did not happen then and “ain’t” going to happen now.

  • Anonymous

    Who would have thought that the drooling idiocy of pure evil would be named Harold?

  • Concerned The Christian Now Liberated

    Harold, Harold, Harold, Poor Brainwashed Soul That You Are,Reality 101:Luther, Calvin, Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley et al, founders of Christian-based religions, also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of “pretty wingie thingie” visits and “prophecies” for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (e.g.resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immaculate conceptions, atonement theology and original sin).

  • Tim

    Could not say it any better so: Long live Israel. Do not give into the thugs of islam. They have no claim on the holy land. They should pack up their bags and stay in the land of their thug false prophet muhammad. No believers of any other faith are even allowed to enter the unholy land of mecca. That is what the international community should be talking about. The intolerance of islam. There is no freedom of speech where islam reigns. The Muslim thugs are trying to take free speech away from non muslim people in Lebenon right now because they are over 50%. The blind guides in the USA government and the western media cannot make this simple observation and continually run around spouting the PC false doctrine that “Islam is a religion of peace.” These blind guides are going to get us all killed.

  • Ralph

    Now let’s get this straight…The Jews have displaced the Arabs from land which the Jews say that “God gave them”. As proof, the Jews and most Christians quote written material which was written by the Jews. To be fair, it seems that such an important matter should have verification by impartial sources. I do not favor either side in this disagreement, but some additional views might be considered.

  • Mark W.

    Eboo, thank-you for compiling a variety of opinion on these matters. Now here in the United States, gaining opinions is a process which is outsourced to Patriotic Thinktanks. So in the interest of not interfering with capitalism, Commerce or Patriotism, just let me say, “No comment”. Of course that is just my personal sober view. Please do carry on though Mr. Patel, put me on your ignore list, as I would not want to hold you hostage disrupting important work. Yes, do carry on.

  • Author

    Eboo Patel has very strong, specific opinions on almost every other subject but has no opinion on Israel-Palestine situation. What a joke!

  • Tim

    Ralph, you want an impartial source? How about God. God wrote the Bible and he says that the holy land belongs to the Jews. However, the land really still does not completely belong, even to this day, to the Jews. Why? Because the Muslims have control of the Temple Mount. And on the Temple Mount are structures erected by Islam to honor their idol, Allah. God has said, in his Bible, that this too will end. You can count on this happening as it comes from not only an impartial source but the voice of ultimate athority, God himself.

  • Arabist

    Mr. Patel,Thanks for sharing, but please do make an attempt to transliterate. al-Nakba correctly. It’s with a “k” not a “q” as the Arabic is spelled with the letter “kaaf” (ك) and not “qaaf” (ق). Spelling it as Naqba changes the meaning all-together.Cheers.

  • Judy Smith

    Guilt re holocaust enabled Jews to take the land from Palestinians without there being a ‘WILLING SELLER AND A WILLING BUYER.’Too, many belive Jews are God’s chosen people. AND that God gave them a Deed to the land (fundamentalist Christians see the taking over of Middle East to be a precursor to the ‘end of time’ when Jews will either convert to Christianity of be condemned to Hell.As long as these beliefs are adherred to, there will NOT be peace in the Middle East. AND Americans will continue to be captive of the Jewish lobbyists – some politicians will do as they are told to get the ‘Jewish vote.’I regret being so blunt re Israelis/Palestinians. However, I think the objective facts are such that this is the way it has been and still is.

  • Judy Smith

    Guilt re holocaust enabled Jews to take the land from Palestinians without there being a ‘WILLING SELLER AND A WILLING BUYER.’Too, many belive Jews are God’s chosen people. AND that God gave them a Deed to the land (fundamentalist Christians see the taking over of Middle East to be a precursor to the ‘end of time’ when Jews will either convert to Christianity of be condemned to Hell.As long as these beliefs are adherred to, there will NOT be peace in the Middle East. AND Americans will continue to be captive of the Jewish lobbyists – some politicians will do as they are told to get the ‘Jewish vote.’I regret being so blunt re Israelis/Palestinians. However, I think the objective facts are such that this is the way it has been and still is.

  • Judy Smith

    Guilt re holocaust enabled Jews to take the land from Palestinians without there being a ‘WILLING SELLER AND A WILLING BUYER.’Too, many belive Jews are God’s chosen people. AND that God gave them a Deed to the land (fundamentalist Christians see the taking over of Middle East to be a precursor to the ‘end of time’ when Jews will either convert to Christianity of be condemned to Hell.As long as these beliefs are adherred to, there will NOT be peace in the Middle East. AND Americans will continue to be captive of the Jewish lobbyists – some politicians will do as they are told to get the ‘Jewish vote.’I regret being so blunt re Israelis/Palestinians. However, I think the objective facts are such that this is the way it has been and still is.

  • Judy Smith

    When Jews become more loyal to America than Israel, there will be justice and peace between Israel and PalestineTHAT means US government from bottom up will treat all countries/states in the Middle East equally. Hate will diminish and respect for each other can be the foundation for justice and peace.

  • Judy Smith

    When Jews become more loyal to America than Israel, there will be justice and peace between Israel and PalestineTHAT means US government from bottom up will treat all countries/states in the Middle East equally. Hate will diminish and respect for each other can be the foundation for justice and peace.

  • Judy Smith

    When Jews become more loyal to America than Israel, there will be justice and peace between Israel and PalestineTHAT means US government from bottom up will treat all countries/states in the Middle East equally. Hate will diminish and respect for each other can be the foundation for justice and peace.

  • Unvarnished Truth

    Long live Israel. Do not give into the thugs of islam. They have no claim on the holy land. They should pack up their bags and stay in the land of their thug false prophet muhammad. No believers of any other faith are even allowed to enter the unholy land of mecca. That is what the international community should be talking about. The intolerance of islam. There is no freedom of speech where islam reigns. The Muslim thugs are trying to take free speech away from non muslim people in Lebenon right now because they are over 50%. The blind guides in the USA government and the western media cannot make this simple observation and continually run around spouting the PC false doctrine that “Islam is a religion of peace.” These blind guides are going to get us all killed.

  • captn_ahab

    Jews and Arab Moslems can cease pointing fingers and each other and blaming the other for his plight.Is there a place for a sovereign Jewish majority state in the Middle East acceptable to its Arab/Moslem neighbors?Can Arab Palestinians accept the best deal they can get with the land available, and forget about retaking the land that is Israel?Can Israeli fundamentalists give up their dream of settling “Judea and Samaria”?Can the Arab nations turn down their anti Semitic rhetoric, while Israeils begin to treat their Arab citizens with greater equality?The last question is the most difficult.Given the history of the conflict and the hostility of the Arab world to the existence of a Jewish majority state is it now possible to get positive answers to all these questions?

  • Oy!

    As long as the Arabs/Muslims teach each generation to hate the Jews and the West,

  • Hank Curtis

    Israel was created with out Palestinians having any say. The results, added to ISraeli ethnic clensing and expansionism guarantees hundreds of years of war. The only permanent solution to the Palestinian-Israeli embroglio is having free elections open to all palestinians, including the refugees and all Israeli, including the ones that have left Israel, on the formation of one state with one government. IF this is not done, the Palestinians and arabs will slowly continue to develop the capacity to overrun Israel.A one state solution has its problems, but it is better than a two state permanent war.

  • L.Kurt Engelhart

    Taking sides is a tribal matter, left over from the days when tribes could avoid each other. Maintaining tribal perspectives in increasingly integrated societies is acceptable if the tribes can come together at a higher level, i.e. government, to set standards acceptable to all. The alternative is the historical one, that one tribe must kill the other off to get peace, for a while.

  • L.Kurt Engelhart

    Taking sides is a tribal matter, left over from the days when tribes could avoid each other. Maintaining tribal perspectives in increasingly integrated societies is acceptable if the tribes can come together at a higher level, i.e. government, to set standards acceptable to all. The alternative is the historical one, that one tribe must kill the other off to get peace, for a while.

  • Paganplace

    Well, all I can observe is all the dirty land-and-war-related stuff has taken on a mythic life of its own. Maybe arranging a mythic sort of start of resolution would be a good start. Maybe the followers Abrahamic religions ought to get over this idea of *winning.* As long as it’s a zero-sum game, that’s how it’s going to play.

  • Sarah and Allie

    We agree with the author’s proposal to put aside differences and hatred in order to create a peaceful solution. Biases aren’t going to solve this issue. Regardless of how each side spins historical facts, the truth is that both sides have suffered terrible injustices and neither will benefit from continued fighting and bloodshed. If forty years of pointing fingers has not yet solved the problem, there is no reason to believe that it will lead to anything but more violence. A peaceful future will be worth the painful concessions that would be required to reach a lasting compromise. Now is the time to end the cycle of violence that plagues this conflict.How many human lives is a piece of land worth?

  • David

    We don’t need the moronic references to god in order to side with Israel. In fact, that ignorance, very close to the jihadic ignorant arguments, does more harm than good.Anyone who doesn’t admit the simple facts is on the side of terrism:Anything less than acceptance of those points is clear bigotry.

  • Eugene Tarnow

    The “cycle of violence” phrase used by Patel is a propaganda phrase that incorrectly describes the situation at hand. It is typically used to stop Israel from defending itself against Palestinian terrorists. The users of the phrase are akin to a spokesman for a violent man beating up his wife telling the wife “don’t defend yourself – it will just make it worse.”

  • FRIEND

    Free Palistine!

  • harold

    Quoting “We don’t need the moronic references to god in order to side with Israel”1) The Mandate was for a Jewish National Homeland, but almost 80% was immediately made judenrein by the British governmentAnd the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:“walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it”length, Syria to Egypt, “the breadth of it” those who have the breath of life. The path is straight, a line, and who is on his side, side by side, two by two with the breath of life.I ask you wise man, who’s the moron, one who quotes the Lord or the UN. “For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it”

  • harold

    And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:”Lift up now thine eyes”That is the four corners of heaven for those who have the breath of life.”For all the land which thou seest” “to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever” I see heaven above. what does the UN have to say about that.secretWho knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord hath wrought this?These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,These are the generations of the heavens A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.These are the generations of the heavens My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord; neither be weary of his correction:

  • Arminius

    Mr Patel,As always, I commend you for your beautiful humanity. The world needs more like you. I mourn the benighted here that rant against your quest for peace.Arminius

  • Ibrahim Mahfouz

    I stated in my post of May 12 3:45 PM It seems that the world’s conscience is finally awakening as evidenced by the call to justice by so many religious leaders as shown below.Also involved are seminary leaders, professors, authors, aid agency

  • 7 Points to Peace

    Bible and Koran Quoters are Absolutely useless. Number 1: The Unite Nations resolution creating the jewish state of Israel wasn’t fair to anyone. The jews didn’t earn the land, and the palestinians who used to live there (muslim, christian, jewish, etc.) got shafted by the victors of World War II. Accept that as a starting point. And being victims of the Holocaust doesn’t mean you earned the land.Number 2: There are too many absolute, ancient, conflicting, religious mandates for each religions’ “Holy Land” comprising the area of Palistine to ever be unentangled. Guess what? Allah, God, Yahweh, El or whoever you call your supreme deity doesn’t give a damn who lives there. And certainly isn’t going to step in to support any group’s claim. There is no divine allotment of palestine to any group of people.Number 3: Arabs, Jews, etc. are ALL johnny-come-latelies who have displaced or conquered the original settlers of Palistine. None of you have an ultimate, pre-existing claim. Go back far enough and you’ll find conquerers in force seizing the land from the previous inhabitants. Number 4: People who continue to do the same thing over and over again expecting a different result are insane and not capable of rational thought. People, arab, israeli, palestinian have been fighting, maiming, killing other people in palestine for generations thinking they can drive the others out and take over in peace. It hasn’t happened. It isn’t going to happen. And anyone who thinks differently needs to be locked up in an asylum. You are all idiots.Number 5: There are more Jews around the world than can ever fit in Israel. There are more Palestinians around the world than can fit in Palestine. If you aren’t living there now, it isn’t your land. Shut the heck up and get on with your lives whereever you are now. Unless you personally got dispossed of your homes by the current inhabitants, it’s not your home any more. If you, or your family, fled the country, for whatever reason, you gave up the right to own it.Number 6: The nation of Israel is engaged in defacto apartheid, and genocide of palestinians. The various arab and palestinian groups killing and launching missiles randomly into Israel are also engaged in defacto apartheid and genocide. Both of you are just as bad as the Nazi’s of the ’30s and ’40s. You need to stop. Now.Number 7: The government of Israel needs to change. The only way to reduce violence and conflict in Palestine is to be inclusive of everyone and exclusive of noone. Failure to adopt that strategy will prove your doom.

  • dsapp

    Why not celebrate the Jewish state? After what the Jews have had to endure, they deserve a homeland.

  • dsapp

    Why not celebrate the Jewish state? After what the Jews have had to endure, they deserve a homeland.

  • harold

    to 7 Points to Peacethis is a nation who sought to destroy the native americans, because they could. it is a nation which enslaved blacks from another nation because they could. now latin american’s are comming to this nation, and they seek to prevent them from doing so because the can. this is a nation rampted in crime and drugs, it is a reflection of what they are. we now have a government where the founding father’s vision is disappearing. this is a nation where the chief of staff to the president said the wife of one with an opposing view is fair game to attack. what amazes me is that people see nothing wrong with this mind set. next will be the children and many will view nthis is a part of life in this nation. this is a nation where the people need to change. i suggest they go to hell

  • harold

    thomas lookFollowers of Jesus”shadow of death light is sprung up”But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.”let the dead bury their dead.”This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee;

  • Gaby

    7 Points to Peace:Nicely said! I especially liked the very first sentence.Harold:Quit spamming!! It is very annoying and no one reads your dribble anyhow.

  • Thomas Baum

    HAROLDJesus said a lot of things and one of the things that He said was, “Do not multiply words like the pagans do”, so if you want to say something, say it.Take care, be ready.Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

  • Saint Michael Traveler

    It am on the side of humanity, peace, respect for all nations and members of all religions, and justice.To diffuse the problems followed by creating Israel among the Arabic nations we may have to look outside of the box. Would Israel consider joining us as a member of the Unites States’ Common Wealth? What are costs and benefits for US? We are already supporting Israel economically, politically and by sharing intelligence and military hardware. In addition, some Israeli Americans with both Israeli and American citizenships serve in the Israeli Armed Forces. Israel never would have to be fearful of any other Arabic nation; our great American Armed Forces will protect the common wealth as they would the homeland.What do you think?

  • Saint Michael Traveler

    It am on the side of humanity, peace, respect for all nations and members of all religions, and justice.To diffuse the problems followed by creating Israel among the Arabic nations we may have to look outside of the box. Would Israel consider joining us as a member of the Unites States’ Common Wealth? What are costs and benefits for US? We are already supporting Israel economically, politically and by sharing intelligence and military hardware. In addition, some Israeli Americans with both Israeli and American citizenships serve in the Israeli Armed Forces. Israel never would have to be fearful of any other Arabic nation; our great American Armed Forces will protect the common wealth as they would the homeland.What do you think?

  • Saint Michael Traveler

    It am on the side of humanity, peace, respect for all nations and members of all religions, and justice.To diffuse the problems followed by creating Israel among the Arabic nations we may have to look outside of the box. Would Israel consider joining us as a member of the Unites States’ Common Wealth? What are costs and benefits for US? We are already supporting Israel economically, politically and by sharing intelligence and military hardware. In addition, some Israeli Americans with both Israeli and American citizenships serve in the Israeli Armed Forces. Israel never would have to be fearful of any other Arabic nation; our great American Armed Forces will protect the common wealth as they would the homeland.What do you think?

  • Thomas Baum

    TRUE BELIEVER When Jesus said, “It is finished”, that translates as “PAID IN FULL”, don’t you believe that God wins or is a tie ‘good enough’ for you?Take care, be ready.Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

  • Garak

    Quinn: I tried to post the entire article, but evidently the blog owner declined. Let me summarize it for you, as you seem not to have the inclination to read it yourself. Must be an aversion to facts.The Arabs did not expel their Jews in 1948. Those Jews left of their own accord, following their own Zionist impulse. They resent being called refugees. Those who spout this disinformation do so for political purposes, to try to taint the Palestinians’ right of return. You can argue trot out the usual line that Israelis who write this are self-hating Jews, but that’s your problem. As is, it seems, reality and history. But since when have reality and history ever stopped the supporters of Israel?

  • geomatix

    I really enjoyed this post!!!

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    Support for Israel or the Palestinians is not an either-or thing. What bothers me is someone who will swing to one extreme or the other. When I was in college, the guy who lived across the hall from me was very pro-Israel, pro-Zionist. He often went so far as to say that anyone who criticized Israel was an anti-Semite (at best) and a neo-Nazi (at worst). (One of his more outrageous claims was that pictures of Israeli police beating up Palestinians during the Intifadah was PLO footage all using actors. He said if six or seven Israeli police were clubbing a Palestinian, there must have been a good reason for it. (There probably was, I admit–the guy probably dropped a gum wrapper or jaywalked, or something equally heinous.)For his Junior Year Abroad, he went to Israel. He was Jewish, but hadn’t set foot in temple since his bar mitzvah. This was the pre-Internet days, so we kept in touch via snail-mail. His first letters were glowing reports about how wonderful Israel was. About three months later, the return address on his letters would list his name, street address, and city, but instead of “ISRAEL,” he had written “NORTHERN PROVINCE, REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA.” He was quite bitter and disillusioned when he came back to the USA.

  • Richard

    If the “sky god” has engaged in a special contract with one of the multiple Semitic peoples in the Middle East, given them unassailable rights to enter Canaan and kill its former inhabitants and after failing to retain possession is now re-enacting this task, I ask:1. Why do U. S. F-16s. Blackhawk helicopters and untold billions of American dollars have to indemnify this all powerful being in the perfection of this deal? Having the power to creat/destroy universes, practice “creative design” of all living things etc., why can’t he/she it handle the matter alone? 2. Why is anyone who asks this question castigated by neo-Israelites as “anti-Semitic”.3. Why do Jews alone claim the title as “Semites” when all modern dictionaries and the Microsoft “Encarta” describe Semites as most of the descendants of Phoenicians including most Arabic speaking peoples?