Scientology’s Soul Man

By David Waters Thank goodness Isaac Hayes wrote “Soul Man” before he became a Scientologist. Whatever would have become of … Continued

By David Waters

Thank goodness Isaac Hayes wrote “Soul Man” before he became a Scientologist. Whatever would have become of Sam and Dave or the Blues Brothers if they had belted out a song called “Thetan Man”?

According to beliefs promoted by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, the immortal soul — or “thetan” — passes from one body to the next through reincarnations over trillions of years. When a person dies, Hubbard said, the thetan goes to a landing station on Venus where it is programmed with lies about its past life and its next one.

Hubbard taught his followers to choose a location other than Venus. So here’s hoping that Hayes, who died Sunday at age 65, chose to keep his immortal soul in Memphis where it belongs, and where he made me question my own suspicions about all Scientologists.

That Hayes was a Scientologist was known to everyone who ever visited South Park, the animated show for which Hayes was the voice of the soulful cafeteria worker Chef, a role he quit in 2006 after an episode mocked his religion and fellow Scientologist Tom Cruise.

The church of Scientology has always seemed beyond bizarre — grounded more in a Me-ology than a Theology — but of all the celebrity Scientologists in America, Hayes was the only one who made me wonder if there might be something to it. He was the only one who didn’t fit the mold.

Hayes grew up in the Baptistcostal (equal parts Baptist and Pentecostal) streets of inner-city Memphis, where Jesus walks with hustlers and dealers. He was baptized in Soulsville, the heart of the Memphis soul music world populated by such stars as David Porter (brother of a Pentecostal bishop), Aretha Franklin (daughter of a Baptist preacher) and Al Green (who became the Rev. Al Green). Writing hit songs for Otis Redding, Sam and Dave, and himself, Hayes became the Black Moses of Memphis Soul, a funky blend of gospel and blues, church and street, sacred and profane.

Scientology is as welcome in Memphis as Falun Gong is in Beijing. And yet in 1997, Hayes and Lisa Marie Presley funded a Scientology mission church in Memphis. Later that year, they threw a Christmas party at the church, which I covered. It was a surreal site watching the Black Moses and the daughter of The King promoting Dianetics while singing Christmas songs to inner-city children in the land of the Delta blues.

Hayes saw something in Scientology that he thought would help inner-city children. He was introduced to Hubbard’s work in the mid-1990s by Rev. Alfreddie Johnson, a former Baptist pastor who joined Scientology after the L.A. riots in 1992. At Johnson’s urging, Hayes took two Dianetics classes, “The Ups and Downs of Life” and “Personal Values and Integrity.”

“These were the tools that I had been looking for, to improve my life and other people’s lives,” Hayes told the Memphis Flyer in a 1998 interview. “Scientology is the key to life and total freedom. The minute that I started doing these courses and things, I started pulling in all kinds of wonderful jobs. It’s the key to my survival. Knowledge about one’s self is always the key to one’s survival.”

Hayes joined Johnson’s World Literacy Crusade, an organization that uses Hubbard’s “study technology” to promote literacy inner-city neighborhoods. Critics say it’s merely a ruse to promote Scientology in the schools. Hayes defended the program in a 1998 A&E documentary called “Inside Scientology.”

“If a building is on fire and my child is on the second or third floor, do you care, do you think I care about who comes to save my child? We’re just simply talking about saving lives, and some people try to confuse the issues. “Oh, don’t take that stuff ’cause they’re going to try to make you become a Scientologist.” No, no, no, no, no.”

Maybe Hayes was just spouting the company line, and I still think Scientology is beyond bizarre, but if it worked for Shaft and Chef, for a man who took his grandmother to the Academy Awards where he was honored for writing a song about “a sex machine to all the chicks”, then right on. I can dig it.

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  • Anonymous

    I certainly can’t.

  • Davey

    Sorry but I have no doubt $cientology hastened Isaac Hayes’ death. He was put under pressure to quit his gig at South Park by $cientology. He needed the money and loved being the Chef. He was completely controlled by his $cientology handlers. RIP Isaac.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe they asked him to set up that mission in Memphis so they could underage children to drop out of school and work in the “Orgs” just like they do in Australia. If people are really interested they can go find out about it on YouTube.

  • Anonymous

    Isaac Hayes was used by the church of scientology.

  • David

    Isaac Hayes appeared to be fine with South Park poking fun at Scientology as they have many other religions. It was only after he’d had a stroke that his handlers quit the show for him. It is of course ironic that you mention a Christmas show, when Scientology teaches that Jesus Christ is one of those lies implanted into us by alien psychiatrists millions of years ago – but I don’t think Hayes reached the OT levels where they teach you that.A fine musician rests in soulful peace.

  • Anonymous

    Their not bizarre, they’re dangerous. Maybe you should take time and actually research the Criminal Organization of Scientology.

  • JBE

    As the song goes:”He’s a complicated man, who no one understands, ex-cept his wo-maaaaan…”Its too bad scientology is a money making business that lies to its members, and CHARGES them. Its too bad that Hayes allowed himself to be forced into hypocrisy by making equal opportunity intolerant jokes on South Park about everyone and everything, until the Scientologists told him to complain about the South Park episode that detailed their beliefs.Its even worse that the lost and rudderless are co-opted into the house of scientology’s lies. Well, the house of L. Ron’s science fiction novels, I should say.Space novels are great. A faux religion based upon them is a joke. That such an organization thrives by hood-winking innocent civilians is a CRIME. That is stains a great usician’s reputation is a SHAME.Go CHEF!

  • pegleg

    Loved Isaac and think Travolta’s a great actor but even a paper thin review of the history of Scientology sets off the creep-o-meter. I suggest reading Hubbard’s son’s expose of the first half of Scientology’s history. Miscavge, the current leader was hand picked by Hubbard while still a teenager. Hubbard surrounded himself in his dotage with some nubile young people from which he picked Miscavage. The public face of Scientology’s leadership is the “company” lawyer….That should set off warning bells.

  • Also Anonymous

    It seems the author should have researched this story a little better.

  • Sponge

    Isaac Hayes: Shafted by $cientology.

  • anonymous

    No matter how much I research or read about scientology, for years they have consistently set off my huckster-“creep-o-meter.” Everyone I have ever known personally that became seriously involved with or committed to scientology has usually been a lifelong marginal-kook, and eventually came to a bad (or sad) end.Mr. Hayes was probably a good man, a great songwriter, musician, performer, – but I don’t give a damn WHO or what “celebrity” touts it’s wondrous capabilities – “scientology” (the name itself is preposterous if you think about it) is at the very least a dangerous joke.I’m leaving this post as “anonymous,” – if you do a little research you will also find scientology to be one hell of a mean & vindictive, yet powerful little bunch toward any of their critics, famous, anonymous, or otherwise.

  • fed

    I’m not very educated on scientology, but I must admit that I am highly skeptical of any histrionic conspiracy theory I read about on the internet, about scientology or otherwise. While I am open to the idea that it’s a dangerous organization, I have never read a believable story about scientology hurting anyone, and I cannot shake the belief that if celebrities were not involved, no one would care.However, I am disgusted that people’s contempt for this organization is so entrenched that when a man DIES, their only response is to point out that he had been brainwashed at some point in his life. I cannot understand hating something that much just because people in glossy magazines act kooky because of it.

  • David Mudkips

    “The minute that I started doing these courses and things, I started pulling in all kinds of wonderful jobs.”There’s your answer. Scientology has a documented strategy of courting celebrities in order to advertise the cult. Part of this strategy includes promoting said celebrities by getting them gigs. Just ask Jason Beghe.

  • James

    RIP Isaac.

  • Paganplace

    As for the whole kerfuffle about South Park creators , who are gifted at satire but sometimes get the impression that this makes them experts on making presumptions about other people… feeling a bit betrayed by this dude being content to make fun of everyone *else* but himself, well, that’s all pot and kettle, anyway.

  • AmandaPanda

    I have NO idea what Paganplace is talking about? can someone translate to english please?Isaac Hayes was very entertaining… Condolences to his family.I find it sad that he spent his money and influence to prop up a criminal organization, that is NOT recognized as a religion by the highest court in this nation.

  • Adrasteia

    Oh please. Hayes had no problem rudely insulting any and every person or religion on South Park until they had the audacity to rudely insult Scientology. He was no different than the rest: brainwashed.

  • Rick Sweeny

    L. Ron Hubbard taught that blacks can not progress spiritually even with the use of scientology beyone the most basic levels. People who are terminally ill or “end cycle” are ejected from scientology because they are “low on the tone scale” meaning they depress the people around them. I think this is good news and I hope Issac had a chance to die outside the cult and live his last days a free man.

  • Dave2

    David Waters,Your “suspicions” about Scientology are, all things considered, pretty mild suspicions. You say Scientology is “beyond bizarre”, citing some of Hubbard’s outlandish space opera, and you suggest that it caters to a self-centered mindset (“Me-ology”). Nothing too strong there.But as a journalist, you must be familiar with Scientology’s sordid underbelly. While in tax exile, sailing the ‘Apollo’ in international waters, self-declared ‘Commodore’ Hubbard had disobedient Church members thrown overboard and confined in a chain locker. Once he had a four-year old child in a chain locker for two days sitting in its own excrement. Hubbard and his Church intelligence agency (the Guardian’s Office) ran an espionage operation (‘Operation Snow White’) infiltrating the IRS and scores of other government agencies. Eleven Scientologists went to prison, including Hubbard’s wife. Hubbard went into hiding as a recluse until his death. The FBI raid uncovered other operations, including a plan to have an anti-Scientology journalist, Paulette Cooper, put in a mental asylum (‘Operation PC Freakout’). Years earlier they had framed her for bomb threats with stolen stationery. Scientology to this day runs a sort of shame-induced prison labor camp (the RPF, ‘Rehabilitation Project Force’) where Scientologists in trouble with the Church have to run everywhere (no walking allowed), not speak unless spoken to, live in squalid barracks with little sleep, eating only scraps, with armed guards and motion detectors on site to prevent them from leaving. It’s technically ‘voluntary’. They use child labor all over the place, with teenage kids commonly working 12-hour days without any education other than Scientology courses. Sometimes it’s clerical work, but often it’s manual labor, as when the kids join the ‘Sea Org’ and sign a billion-year contract. They recruit people into the cult with a lot of deceptive front groups. They have management groups preying mainly on dentists, chiropractors, optometrists, podiatrists, and the like. They have a scam drug rehab program (Narconon, not to be confused with NarcAnon) that puts people on toxic levels of niacin and an unhealthy sauna regimen. They also have Criminon for people in prison. And Scientologists give talks to schoolchildren under the guise of anti-drug programs or the group Youth for Human Rights (whose materials list great humanitarians like Gandhi, Mandela, and L. Ron Hubbard). Official Church policy written by Hubbard in 1967 okays Scientologists to “tric[k], su[e] or li[e] to or destro[y]” enemies of the Church: this is the so-called “Fair Game” policy. The Church still has an intelligence agency (OSA) responsible for dirty tricks operations. They collect the personal information of critics; send out ‘black PR’ letters to their neighbors, employers, the authorities, etc.; harass the critics at their homes or workplace; run frameup operations; etc. Finally, They soak their members every step of the way. Nightmarishly aggressive “hard sell” tactics are used, and they get all your financial information so they can pressure you to max out your credit cards, sign over your mortgage, etc. And when you run out of money, they pressure you to join staff and work for a pittance: you get to take courses for free but they keep track and if you ever want to leave, they’ll try to hit you with a “freeloader’s debt”. They were classified as a commercial enterprise by the US government from the ’60s up until as late as 1992, and their current tax-exempt status was apparently the result of an unprecedented harassment campaign against the IRS.This information is not exactly a secret. It can be found in such sources as Time magazine, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles Times, the Boston Herald, Forbes, Rolling Stone, the Village Voice, and the Washington Post.As for Isaac Hayes, he was by all reports a very pleasant and friendly man, and it is sad to see him die. As for his “building on fire” example, I suspect most people really do care whether their child is saved by a fireman or by Charles Manson. It’s good to help kids learn how to read, but it’s a bad idea to allow a predatory cult into our schools. That’s just common sense.

  • Dave2

    Fed,First, you are wrong to be “disgusted”. David Waters’ piece was not a simple obituary of the well-liked celebrity soul singer Isaac Hayes. It was about Scientology, and whether there’s anything good in it despite how bizarre it is. There is nothing wrong with those of us who are aware of how dangerous Scientology is to take this opportunity to share some facts.Second, just because the truth about Scientology is somewhat shocking, it doesn’t mean that you’re dealing with a “histrionic” Internet conspiracy theory. Perhaps you’ve never read anything credible about Scientology hurting anyone, but that’s because you’ve apparently never read the reports of any journalist, scholar, ex-member, critic, or government investigator concerning Scientology. When EVERY SINGLE independent investigator reaches the very same conclusions, you’re not dealing with a conspiracy theory, you’re dealing with facts. History is filled with somewhat shocking stories about ruthlessly cruel organizations, and it is blind squeamishness to close your eyes to these unpleasant facts.But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. If you want to learn about Scientology, here are some sources.Read some news and magazine journalists: the 1991 Time Magazine article, the 1986 Forbes piece, the six-part 1990 Los Angeles Times series, the 1980 Reader’s Digest article, the Pulitzer Prize-winning 1980 St. Petersburg Times series on the takeover of Clearwater, the 2006 Rolling Stone article, the 1984 Sunday Times Magazine piece, the 1968 Life magazine article, the 1986 L.A. Weekly article, the 1994 Washington Post article, the 1997 L.A. Weekly Article on Study Tech, the 1997 New York Times article on their tax-exempt status, the 1980 American Lawyer piece on Scientology’s war against judges, the 1999 New Times L.A. piece on the takeover of the Cult Awareness Network, the 1998 Boston Herald series, the eight-part 2001 New Times L.A. series, the Maisonneuve profile of Gerry Armstrong from June 23 of this year, or the lengthy Village Voice article from June 30 of this year.Or see what television journalism has to say: watch the 1998 20/20 report, the 1998 Dateline NBC report on Bob Minton, the 1998 CBS Public Eye report on Lisa McPherson, the 1968 British documentary “The Shrinking World of L. Ron Hubbard”, the 1998 Panorama expose, the 1999 German documentary “Missing in Happy Valley”, the 1995 The Big Story expose “Inside the Church of Scientology”, the 1985 60 Minutes report, the 1998 A&E special “Inside Scientology”, the 1997 Secret Lives report on L. Ron Hubbard, the 1997 60 Minutes report, the 2006 Anderson Cooper report on the Nevada vault, the infamous 2007 Panorama investigation “Scientology and Me”, the 1992 Nightline report with an interview of David Miscavige, or the Nightline report from April 24 of this year.Or some book-length journalism: Russell Miller’s Bare-Faced Messiah (1987), Jon Atack’s A Piece of Blue Sky (1990), Paulette Cooper’s The Scandal of Scientology (1971), L. Ron Hubbard: Messiah or Madman? (1987), Robert Kaufman’s Inside Scientology (1972), George Malko’s Scientology: The Now Religion (1970), or Stewart Lamont’s Religion Inc. (1986).Or government inquiries: Australia’s 1965 Anderson Report, the UK’s 1971 Foster Report, New Zealand’s 1969 The Dumbleton-Powles Report, or Canada’s 1970 Lee Report.Or court decisions: Armstrong v. Church of Scientology (L.A. Superior Court Case No. C420153 1984), Wollersheim v. Church of Scientology (212 Cal. App. 3d 872, Cal. App. 2d Dist. 1989), Allard v. Church of Scientology (58 Cal.App.3d 439, Cal. App. 2d Dist. 1976), or the 23 July 1984 UK High Court of Justice decision by Justice Latey.Or see what the scholars have to say: the September 2003 issue of the Marburg Journal of Religion.And then finally, just Google the names of the people responsible for these reports and see how the Church tried to harass them into silence.

  • Dave2

    Paganplace,Little of what you have written makes any sense. Please state your views as plainly as possible, and try to give reasons in support of your views. Thank you.

  • Arminius

    Hi, Paganplace,Please, friend, take some time to google Scientology. That bizarre organization is not just a pustule on the arse of humanity, but a cancr that could corrupt humanity’s heart. It is altogether evil, and I do not use that word lightly, ever.One of its beliefs is that, once it has taken over all governments, is that a certain percentage of humanity must be eliminated. Killed. Genocide. You and me and all our friends and family.Google that piece of s*** and see how much pro and con you get.

  • Arminius

    To return to the subject -Isaac Hayes was a remarkable musician, truly. I loved what he created, and will honor his memory.It is a real shame he was sucked in by those SOBs claiming to have a religion, but instead having a con game leading to their own power and wealth.

  • Buck Thrust

    Right, we all agree about Scientology, bla bla, bizarre beliefs, innocents under control by the greedy inner core.Couldn’t agree more, but: where does that leave (among others) the Roman Catholic church? Oops, sorry, that’s a real “faith.”

  • Mary McConnell

    L Ron Hubbard was pretty cunning to use celebrities to forward the biggest con game of this and last century. You see, theres nothing quite like the sparkle of a celebrity presence to help blind people from reality and the facts.You’ve been conned Mr. Waters, and like many scientology supporters, you don’t even know it.

  • Anonymous

    Buck Thrust,OK, let’s talk about Roman Catholicism. Show me some internal documents outlining their official policies. Maybe something that instructs priests to molest children. Or perhaps something that tells you how to do a cover-up — which internal documents to destroy, how to infiltrate government agencies and destroy their documents, that sort of thing. Or something that tells you how to deal with journalists who report on the child molestation or the cover-up, how to mount a harassment campaign that can successfully bully these journalists into silence.Until you show me these documents, your analogy falls apart. Scientology has official policies written by L. Ron Hubbard himself detailing all the abusive practices of the cult, as well as how to do a cover-up and how to bully the press into silence. And it’s not like these policies are ignored. On the contrary, they’re followed to the letter, as it’s a serious crime within Scientology to deviate from Hubbard’s instructions.In short, the abuses of Scientology cannot be separated from Scientology, not from its ‘inspired writings’ (HCO Bulletins and Policy Letters) and not from its founder (Hubbard). With Roman Catholicism, it’s easy to separate the abuses from the official doctrine and writings (the Vulgate, the Catechism) and from the founder (Jesus of Nazareth, St. Peter).

  • spiderman2

    David Waters wrote “but if it worked for Shaft and Chef, for a man who took his grandmother to the Academy Awards where he was honored for writing a song about “a sex machine to all the chicks”, then right on. I can dig it.”You have a very shallow view of the word “worked for”. The guy could be in hell today and you could follow him in that place if you’re not careful with your “idols”. I think Bin Ladin does philantropic works also alongside with bombing people. The devil does “good works” also to appear convincing.

  • Merlin Jones the Scrambled Egghead

    He wrote some great songs and sang a great one too. It’s too bad that he used his fame and charisma to promote a sick cult. “The good men do die with them…”

  • Athena

    Well… at least we here at On Flame…er Faith can agree on ONE thing. $cientology is bunk, a rip-off, and a probably dangerous cult. Now that’s unity! I’ve known some people that follow weird spiritual paths in my day (Church of BOB, anyone?) but $cientology takes the cake. Except for maybe whatever belief JJ follows, that is!

  • Dave2

    Spiderman2, what are you talking about? Just because Isaac Hayes was a Scientologist, that doesn’t make him evil, it doesn’t make him Osama bin Laden. Hayes probably thought he was involved with a good organization that was really helping people. And it’s not like Hayes was one of the Scientologists that infiltrated government buildings to destroy documents or steals people’s trash and mail to get their personal information. He was just a celebrity who got conned.

  • Kip Mudd

    Paganplace: “So you can then go back and see how many people skate on the same stuff if they put a cross on it.”Fun fact: This is why L. Ron used the cross as the basis for the Scientology cross, to make his self-help scam look like a religion so the FDA wouldn’t be able to shut him down.I know the Catholic church did bad things in the past, and so did pretty much every other religion out there. Does that make it okay to let Scientologists get away with crimes? “But everyone else is doing it” isn’t an excuse. Also note that the New Testament didn’t tell people to go around starting wars and torturing people–Christianity was twisted and used as an excuse to do un-Christian things such as the Crusades and the Inquisition. Compare this to Scientology where “lie, steal, and kill” are official doctrine and are perfectly acceptable as long as you’re doing it to non-Scientologists (“wogs” in Hubbard’s slang) or Scientologists of a lower rank than you.Let’s not forget that reading the Bible is free if you go to a church or library, and if you want your own copy it costs maybe $20. Compare this to Scientology where you have to pay thousands of dollars to learn the true core beliefs of the religion. Imagine the uproar if a Christian sect made people pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn about the crucifixion.”But other religions did it in the past” is a useless excuse parroted by Scientologists who can’t actually defend the practices of their “church.” If the Inquisition was happening today, in the US, do you really think people wouldn’t protest it and try to inform others about it?

  • Brian Peters

    Rest in Peace Isaac Hayes. The world has lost a kind-hearted and talented man.I would like to correct some falsehoods surrounding his involvement in Scientology and his departure from South Park. In public comments he stated that while he didn’t agree with the “Trapped in the Closet” episode of South Park (which lampooned Scientology) he emphasized that he understood South Park makes fun of everybody. He loved his role as Chef, and did not want to leave South Park, but he faced extreme pressure from Scientology leaders to distance himself from the hit TV show.In January 2006 Isaac Hayes suffered a stroke, and in March a statement was issued by the Church of Scientology on his behalf, announcing his resignation from South Park.I will remember Mr Hayes as a great man and a great talent.

  • Arminius

    Brian Peters:Thanks! Isaac Hayes, that wonderful master of music, will be remembered for his artistry. Not for being sucked into a truly malevolent pseudo-religious scam, which turned on him at the end.Scientology is altogether bad, nasty, power and money hungry, and at its top, just as evil as the Nazis.

  • Baller

    Isaac Hayes was a great Scientologist. He was also an amazing artist who helped lots of people with iliteracy problems. Thanks Isaac for everything! Now, these Anonymou$ geeks, I know who you are. Those computer geeks who have dandriff, bad breathe, never shower, either really fat or really skinny, pale, and have no social skills because all you do is sit behind a computer and post blogs. Ahhhh, why don’t you taking a shower, brush those mossy teath, try going to a gym, and stop wasting tax payers money. Basically you guys are PWTT (poor white trailer trash)

  • Jeane Richardson

    It is truly sad how Scientology turned on him in recent years, despite his vocal support for the organization. He wanted to continue working for South Park. On the Opie & Anthony Show he said that he had no problem with the way Matt and Trey handled the Scientology episode.The New York Post reported that the press release announcing he had left South Park was not actually written by Isaac Hayes. The release was put out by fellow Scientologist Christina “Kumi” Kimball, a fashion executive for designer Craig Taylor.He was pushed into leaving South Park because according to Scientology policy, Scientologists must disconnect from anyone considered to be an enemy of Scientology – even close friends and family members may be disconnected.Google “Isaac Hayes back stabbed by Scientology” to find out about what happened in 2006.Rest in Peace Isaac.

  • Isaac Friend

    What a great guy Isaac was and what a great religion Scientology is!!!Scientology and Christianity has helped me a lot on life and I joined because i was curious what all these people were protesting for. you know people always attack something because they have something to hide. its like drug dealers who kill people who might rat on them. same thing that anonymous is doing. the people that are funding them are scared of getting found out…hmm wonder who that could be…stay tuned.

  • spiderman2

    Dave2 wrote “Just because Isaac Hayes was a Scientologist, that doesn’t make him evil, it doesn’t make him Osama bin Laden.”Many people are duped by false religions. I think that is my point. He could be going to hell just like Bin Ladin coz they were duped.

  • namegoeshere

    LOLexpect a cease and desist lawsuit from the Co$

  • Anonymous

    Baller, dandruff is spelled with a U, not an I, and teeth has two E’s. I think you have a couple of misunderstoods you need to clear up.

  • spiderman2

    Mike D. wrote “Sooner or later, death, misery and destruction are unleashed when one religion deems another one to be a “false” religion.”Yes, HOW TRUE, and those who were doing it thru-out history like Catholicism, Islam, Atheism (Communists), Buddhism are all FALSE RELIGIONS. Killing in the name of religion has never been a part of the history of the so called “fundamentalists” you named. In fact it was the Baptists who fought hard to include in the U.S Constitution the First Ammendment. FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE is a primary baptist principle and what’s best about that is the the RIGHT to proclaim that YOURS IS A FALSE RELIGION. “SEARCH AND YE SHALL FIND”. That is what Jesus said. In other words, “you are lost and find your way out”.The FIRST THING to find your way out is TO KNOW that YOU’RE LOST. Otherwise, DARKNESS becomes a normal thing and the NEED to SEE is forgotten. As they crowd and bump each other in the darkness, FISTFIGHTS become a common thing just like what history have proven.

  • Close to the source

    Few people are aware of the fact that the Church of Scientology built a recording studio for Hays in the Los Angeles area early in his relationship to the church. It was a gift. And Hays was grateful for the gift. Of interest is that a workman who was involved in the construction was pressured to do the work for free since a church was building it for Hays. But that is the way Scientology works to create loyalty. And litle has to be said about the facilities Tom Cruise enjoys while at Scientology’s California headquarters, built by members of the Sea Org or other who have been sent there for their “rehabilitation”, often being held there until they come around to the party line.

  • Dave

    Scientology is a criminal organisation, operating like a cult only pretending to be a religion. Why?If you take the bait of going into a center, they will try hard to convince you to take courses aimed at your personal effectiveness.What you do not realize is that you just started in an indoctrination program. If successful, you will extrapolate the gains from some regular courses into a solid belief that you can gain superpowers by taking their courses. The top course, which is supposed to be able to make you travel in time and control other people, is currently on sale for only $20.000!!!For your personal indoctrination, Scientology uses the same psychological and physiological tricks that all cults use. You can find them on any cult information site. The main difference between Scientology and these other cults, is that Hubbard, the founder scripted it all out in procedures once he figured out how it worked. As a result, Scientology is able to condition people independently and do not need the cult leader anymore.So there you have a self-contained system, in which Scientologists create a huge Truman show together, loosing touch with reality as they stay longer in the cult. They work themselves into a worrying superiority-complex: they are Homo Novis will will save the world with their zooperpowers by making everybody a Scientologist. Regrettably, this is combined with an extremely problematic morale, in which the goal of conquering the world justifies just about any means. For most members, this leads to an apathy for the well being of their fellow members and a complete disrespect for democratic values. Members act both as victims and perpetrators. Victims, because the goal of furthering Scientology is worth losing their savings and contact with family members. Perpetrators because their identity is slowly being replaced by that of a cloned of Hubbard, who was violent and schizophrenic.The risk for (self)-destructive behavior is especially high for staff members and Sea-Org members. Staff members cannot afford the $200K-400K needed to follow all courses and volunteer in exchange for free courses. Ex-members will often compare it to being assimilated into the Borg. Slowly you change from being a caring person into a militaristic and amoral figure; resistance is futile. The most fanatic members forms the Sea-Org. They live in a totalitarian regime, comparable only to Orwell’s 1984. A bizarre and ruthless world in which people keep each other hostage by means of emotional blackmail. And yes, it really, really is THAT bad. Check out counterfeitdreams.blogspot.com for a recent story from a 35-year member. Human rights abuses include slave labor, child labor and forced abortions. Just Google these terms with Scientology!You’ll learn there is a much darker story about Scientology than it just being bizarre. I don’t care about the bizarre. I care about the teachings that 20% of all people are psychotic (including you David), that psychiatrists are in some way behind all crimes in the world and that gay people need to ‘be disposed of quietly and without sorrow’ if they can’t be cured. I care about the horrible abuses this leads to, which they have been committing day after day after day for 60 years now without the US government stepping up to the plate of shutting this horrendous organization down.I hope David Waters will care to write something about this side of Scientology in a next blog. He has obviously researched the object of Scientology so he must surely be aware of the many, many stories and the internal documents that evidence all this.

  • Arminius

    Dave,You are quite correct: $cientology is 1984 come to horrific life. I have spent some web time looking at this ongoing tragedy.By the way, your English is very good.

  • Anonymous

    Issac Hayes was a great man. Hopefully he will be remembered not only for the people who contributed to his early death, the Church of $cientology, but also for his amazing musical talents.Also, this is not the first time someone has died because of Scientology’s policies regarding health and medicine (Scientologists are required to sign a contract saying they won’t seek psychiatric treatment). Go to whyaretheydead.net to see the many others who have died because of what they thought would save their lives.Educate yourselvesInformation is free$cientology isn’t

  • Enemy Of The State

    I know as much about Scientology as I do about quantum physics, but I liked Isaac Hayes.Rest in peace.

  • yayala

    Scientology built a studio as a gift for Isaac Hayes?Did any of the parishioners who give big bucks to the church have any say in that?There is no financial transparency in this organization. There is also no informed consent.

  • Dave2

    Spiderman2,First, it almost looks like you’re denying the fact that Osama bin Laden is a much worse person than Isaac Hayes. Who would you rather trust to watch your kids? Who would you rather have as a neighbor? I appreciate that you think they’re both going to hell, but that’s no excuse for denying obvious facts about their character.Second, you’re quite wrong if you think Protestants have been steady friends of religious toleration, or that they’ve never murdered those they deemed heretics. John Calvin famously authorized the murder of Michael Servetus because the latter rejected the Trinity and infant baptism. Calvin and Zwingli and other prominent reformers encouraged the riotous destruction of Catholic icons. Luther famously recommended that German Jews’ homes be burned and their synagogues destroyed. Cromwell and his fellow Puritans in Parliament slaughtered thousands of Irish Catholics. Witch trials flourished in Protestant areas of Europe and America. Scottish Presbyterians murdered teenager Thomas Aikenhead in 1697 on the charge of blasphemy. Religious toleration as we know it comes from intellectual figures in Protestant Christendom of uncertain faith — people like John Locke and Pierre Bayle and Thomas Jefferson — not from Protestant Christianity itself.Third, you seem to be suggesting that all atheists are communists, or that they might as well be communists, or something of that sort. If so, then I don’t need to spend much time refuting that claim. Simply pointing out the claim is as good as refuting it.

  • Dave2

    Isaac Friend wrote: “you know people always attack something because they have something to hide. its like drug dealers who kill people who might rat on them. same thing that anonymous is doing. the people that are funding them are scared of getting found out…hmm wonder who that could be…stay tuned.”Isaac Friend, you need to think about what you’re saying.1. Take as an example Anna Politkovskaya, the Russian journalist who was murdered two years ago. She wrote blistering exposés of the Russian military. Was that because she had something to hide? No, it was because she was an honest journalist uncovering seriously shocking information about a ruthless organization. Politkovskaya was naturally fearful for her life and she took precautions to avoid retaliation. Was that because she had terrible crimes she was hiding? No, it’s because she was openly protesting an organization known for aggressively targeting its critics. Putin and his cronies charged that Politkovskaya and her colleagues in journalism and human rights organizations were being funded by the US, and tried to write them off as puppets doing the bidding of American foreign policy. But this was just vicious propaganda, and Politkovskaya was a goddamned hero.2. You insinuate that you have a theory as to the dark forces pulling the strings of Anonymous. So who is it? Is it the Nazi psychiatrists? The Marcab Confederacy? Inquiring minds want to know.

  • Kim

    I get so sick and tired of the fallacious argument that all religions are the same so $cientology, even though it sounds crazy, is really just the same. Anyone who makes this argument doesn’t know what they are talking about. $cientology is only interested in your money. You can’t practice it with out draining your wallet. It is designed to be “pay to pray.” It is designed to brainwash and take advantage of the needy. It willingly bankrupts and blackmails and enslaves people.

  • Mister Dot

    Scientology is equal to Christianity in it’s bizarre and improbable creation stories. If I went to a street corner and changed the names of the players and places in either story and started preaching my version of Scientology or Christianity people would consider me insane.

  • Xenu

    http://www.xenu.netRead, learn, know…

  • Dave2

    Mister Dot,Scientology’s goofy creation story is not the issue. The issue is its mistreatment of members and harassment of critics.

  • Edo River

    I have lived in the neigborhood, just off N. Vermont in LA during the 1980’s. I have know 1 and met a few Scientologists.1)From what I learned, celebrity members are treated quantitatively and qualitatively different from the usual SC members.2) They do push the envelope of religon/business and exploit the loopholes as much as possible. They have overstepped into illegalities in the past. 3) I am not a friend, I think they are psycologically manipulative of dependent types. But again, that ain’t illegal. Maybe spiritually against the code, but they are something different from other religions and businesses. An American enterprise.I think we have to be tolerant and we have to find out why people seek out Scientology type organizations to replace a more normal family.

  • evil and heresy

    beware of a wolf in sheeps clothing

  • Artoo45

    Baller: You are a poster boy for Hubbard’s literacy programs. How many words can you misspell in one posting. To reveal the scam, simply tell people to read or listen to Hubbard in his own words. Works every time . . .

  • It’s all wrong

    How is Scientology any more crazy than believing that a man died then was resurrected and cured all of your sins for all time? Or that Mohammed rode a horse to heaven? Or that Moses parted the red sea? Or that we will go to a magical place called Heaven when we die? Scientology is crazy but so is every other religion. If you take the time to really think about God, I mean critically think, and you still believe in him/her/it, then I would posit that you too might be crazy.

  • af

    Is there any religion that isn’t false?It’s great fun though, to see the believers of one religion accusing the believers of another of having been brainwashed, of having been taken in by a cult.You don’t know how funny this is!

  • Anonymous

    The difference between Scientology and other religions, is that Scientology can be stopped by exposing the truth that they’re so busy trying to hide from the world – and in part, from themselves.Why are you still wearing these glasses? Didnt Dianetics promise that you will no longer need them at page 17? Take them off. You obviouslyhave some overts to atone to.

  • Sandra

    I don’t understand how people would rather believe that your “soul passes from one body to the next through reincarnations over trillions of years, then when a person dies the soul goes to a landing station on Venus where it is programmed with lies about its past life and its next one” than to believe in God and Jesus Christ whose principles are simple: Love thy neighbor as yourself and Love God with all your heart.If you choose to not believe in God and His word then that is fine but why make up this elaborate tale and then label it a religion. People believe that the bible is written by man and not God so that is why they do not want to adhere to it but why then follow a purely man-derived idealogy thought up out of the blue? So they are not subjected to a divine ordinance so they can live any way they want to…you can do that and not call it religion.I am a Christian and I do not believe in brow beating anyone to believe in what I believe and I hope people do not mistake my comments (just my opinion). My faith is founded on love and loving those around me so I give my condolences to the Hayes family and my heart goes out to them. I am thankful to God that we live in a country that we have the freedom to believe in what ever we choose to believe without Government interference. I’m just baffled about this Scientology thing…is it because celebrities are involved and it is mysterious and trendy is why it is getting so much press? I just hope people are careful and this is not a glamorized cult.

  • Patty Hurt-Harney

    Fox news reports Hayes had “Scientology monitors who rarely left him alone….” in this article: Where were these “scientology monitors”, who kept him from getting proper medical and mental health care after his stroke, when he died?Knowledge is free, educate yourself: enturb.org

  • wil thompson

    I am so sorry to hear of his death. I do believe he needed to hear the truth about his ‘religion’ before passing away. Perhaps he did & chose not to criticise. Anyway, a great loss.

  • A Little South East of Nome

    For AF. You are missing a lot of what the critics are saying. Most don’t argue with Scientology’s absurd creation story. Most do argue with their lying about it and denying it. They also charge huge amounts, in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, to be exposed to it. Of course, the cat is out of the bag now and they are scrambling to pretend otherwise. Can you imagine a Christian not telling you right off the top that Jesus died on the cross and came back to life three days later? Could you imagine that Christian telling you the story after you paid $300,000 then telling you that you would now go to heaven? That’s a pretty close parallel to what Scientology does.

  • Jon

    Isaac Friend:Your religion regards you as a “useful idiot.” Its priests (the 10% or so who have paid enough money to become ‘clear’ that it would be difficult for them to back down, psychologically) don’t consider Christianity a valid choice – they believe it’s one of a great many engrams (and indeed, one of the really bad ones) implanted in the mind of man.I could build a religion around drum circles that takes a radical turn just past the neophyte level (where you have to start sacrificing babies in secret). As long as I engendered a culture of ignorance in the masses, and enough institutional survival skills (silence critics, super-strong organizational structure, information control, strong time committment required to advance), it might even flourish.So it is with Scientology and communication courses / pop psychotherapy.But it just isn’t compatible with the freedom of information we enjoy on the Internet. Just one example: The original OT3 story was put into a public court record a while back. Given that they couldn’t prevent this, a group of Scientologists decided to cover it up by checking it out on a rotating schedule from opening until closing for a decade.That kind of information control doesn’t work any more, and we reject the ability of Scientology to even attempt it on the web. You can find corroborating evidence for PLENTY of their uncomfortable secrets – much more than you possibly could through becoming a lay member, any more than you could learn through my drum circles.

  • Daniel in the Lion’s Den

    To me, Scientology seems improbable. The little story of the building on fire with people trapped on the second floor in need of emergency assistance is a metaphor that Fundamentalist people use, over and over, to justify their flamboyant proselytism agaisnt their neighbors.Alot of people have an “inner-belief” and and “inner-guide” that is weak and suggestible. Alot of people do not know what they believe and are weak in their ability to make aesthetic judgements on what is true and what is not true. What we often call “brain-washing” is the kind of mental control that alot of people seem to need and even crave.I think that organzations like the Church of Scientology take advantage of this weakness in people. But this kind of mental weakness is hardly even definable, and only subtly descernable. So how can we protect people from these types of organizations? It’s a problem.

  • Sandra

    Unbaffled…everyone believes in something or someone. Belief is what this world is built on, if you didn’t believe that you would wake up the next day you wouldn’t plan your activities for the next day. Having faith and believing in a God to guide and direct life produces hope for tomorrow and brings peace and understanding.Whether you believe that religion is based on primitive ideals written by what you say as “ignorant” people is your belief. You believe that…that belief helps you form ideals and opinions to guide you through life. Although, I disagree with your belief whether it be aethist or the other I wouldn’t dare call you ignorant or anyone before me who paved the way and left a legacy ignorant. God Bless.

  • Anonymous

    Shouldn’t this be in the business section?

  • AF

    A Little South East of Nome, perhaps I haven’t been clear. I’m not trying to raise scientology up the the level of other worldwise and long-lasting religions, I’m am saying these other religions are no different from it.They are a con perpetrated upon the ignorant. They require you to believe a lot of BS, and they want your money.The scientologists say believe our crap and we’ll show you how to get over on everybody else.the theistic religions say believe our crap, and we’ll show you how to get over on this all-powerful all-loving beneficent benevolent omnipotent god who really loves you but will trash your soul for eternity if you don’t kiss his butt in the right way.How. Is. This. Any. Different?

  • Sandra

    Unbaffled, evidence and history has proven that Jesus did walk this earth and there is evidence that but no one wants to believe in that.It is not different…you believe that you will wake up tomorrow thus…you will go to work, cook dinner, wash the car, etc. If you didn’t believe that based on evidence/history you wouldn’t make plans…you would wait and see what happens. Evidence/History has shown that for certain everyone is going to die…we just don’t know when.True they didn’t have the understanding and technology of today and thank God that we have advanced but if you look closely…they had primative knowledge that kept them alive, food perservation, structure, etc. Hindsight to say we are so much better because we have the knowledge and technology today but I believe it was birthed out of what was yesterday.Superstition is not break a mirror or you get 7 years bad luck. Believing in a God and the principles of God is not superstition. I believe that God loves me and I am to love others…you call it good advice…I call it faith in God and adherence to his Holy word.It has been a pleasure dialoguing.

  • Wil Thompson

    What is the definition of a religion. I feel that it is anything that deals with making a person more spiritual and closer to his or her higher power, whatever that may be. As a Scientologist I get all of those things in my church. I also respect anyones belief and I would never try to keep them away from something that helped them. Scientology has gotten me off of drugs and helped me become a better husband and father. I am sorry for those that did not feel that they recieved spiritual enlightement from Scientology. I guess it wasn’t for them. Certainly Scientology has made some mistakes but like all religions it is evolving and growing. Its interesting to research other religions and to actually realize that there are wars going on right now because of different religious beliefs. Is this hate group (Anynoumous) trying to create people to hate Scientologists. I am a wonderful caring father and husband who love all people even you guys who continue to promote hatred in our world.

  • Mike D.

    Spiderman2: “Many people are duped by false religions.” In that statement resides the source of uncountable evils perpetrated throughout human history, and continuing unabated today. Sooner or later, death, misery and destruction are unleashed when one religion deems another one to be a “false” religion. And every religion does it, even the ones that are the darlings of political correctness.When I went to a “Bible-believing” “spirit-filled” Assemblies of God church, they took a patronizing attitude toward the Baptists because they weren’t baptized in the Holy Spirit (didn’t speak in tongues). The Disciples of Christ were disdained as “legalists” for some b.s. reason I can’t remember anymore. The Catholics were just flat out unsaved, of course.But of course from the outside, all three churches are “fundamentalist,” the unified “Christian Right.” I’ve got news for you, folks, they all think the other one is “in error,” even if only slightly. President Bush is a Methodist, I believe. Ha! Wish I could read the minds of his fundamentalist pals. Mr. Bush would be quite surprised.”False religion.” Yeah. Kind of a redundant phrase, wouldn’t you say?

  • Scientologist

    I really have enjoyed being a Scientologist for years. It has helped me a lot. I am so much more spiritual and now understand what is meant by mind, body, and spirit. I grew up in the Catholic church and loved going to church and Sunday school. Scientology is similar to going to school but in church because you get to learn about yourself in a spiritual way. Anyways thought I would drop a line and let eveyone know that Scientology is probably not for most people but it certainly has helped me become more spiritual.

  • John Goldstein

    What a great religion Scientology is now. It has gone throw its growing pains and made some mistakes a long time ago but now it is really coming to the spotlight as something that a lot of people use as a part of their spiritual life. I love going to the church on sunday and I was married in a Church of Scientology. We had a wonderful wedding. As a matter of fact most of the people that came to the wedding were not Scientologists and they were really interested in what went on in a church. Most of what they had heard in the tabloid magazines and the internet were blown way out of proportion. God Bless and good day to everyone from a loving Scientologist.

  • B-man

    The initial stages of Scientology seem to me to be just standard psychology presented in an original way. For example, they suggest that you may carry an association of an emotion with a certain personality type, an object, or a place based on a traumatic event you had at an early age. Going back in your mind, in a guided meditation, and reliving that memory will help purge your mind of this “unexplained” emotion you have every time you are in the presence of that personality type, object, or place, etc. That’s not crazy stuff.But the landing place on Venus, aliens in volcanoes, that’s beyond the absurd. Hubbard was a science fiction writer after all.

  • Dave2

    AF, it’s getting pretty tedious to point this out over and over and over again, but there are many ways in which Scientology is different. The brutal mistreatment of its own members and the aggressive harassment campaigns against journalists, ex-members, and other critics are all official Scientology policy written down and ‘set in stone’ by L. Ron Hubbard himself (strictly speaking, it’s set in titanium, Google ‘scientology titanium vault’ and read the Washington Post article).The abuses found in Scientology aren’t some sort of anomalous excrescence. They’re the very essence of the religion.

  • A friend

    Shame on you. What an incredibly inappropriate story in light of the passing of a great artist and humanitarian. And as far as the peanut gallery of comments go, give it a rest.

  • Dave2

    A Friend,Why exactly is this story inappropriate? David Waters is taking the opportunity of Isaac Hayes’ death to say that Hayes was such a nice guy it led Waters to think twice about the dangerous cult Scientology, and to start giving them the benefit of the doubt. It’s obviously a pro-Hayes story, a tribute to the man’s likability.I mean, are you SO far gone that you react aggressively to even the slightest hint of a criticism of Scientology? If so, you need to settle down and start acting like an adult.