A Faith-Friendly Communist Party

Good news for Americans of faith who aren’t happy with the Democratic or Republican parties. The Communist Party USA has … Continued

Good news for Americans of faith who aren’t happy with the Democratic or Republican parties. The Communist Party USA has created a new Religion Commission to reach out to “welcome people of faith into the party.”

Wait. Wasn’t it Marx who said this? “Religion is the impotence of the human mind to deal with occurrences it cannot understand.” And wasn’t it Lenin who said this? “Religion is the opium of the people.” Isn’t communism by definition anti-religion?

This isn’t your great-grandfather’s Communist Party, apparently. “Some of the greatest leaders in our history have been men and women of faith, and our party has been proud to work with them,” Tim Yeager, Religion Commission chairman, Chicago trade unionist and Episcopalian, said in a statement.

As Yeager notes, the party’s constitution states that membership is open to “any person living in the United States, 18 years of age or over, regardless of race, color, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, or religious belief…”

Yes, there are religious Communists. Robert Mugabe, for example, the brutal Marxist dictator and president of Zimbabwe is a Roman Catholic. OK, bad example. There was Thomas J. Hagerty, the Marxist Catholic priest from New Mexico who co-founded the Industrial Workers of the World (the Wobblys Wobblies) and once said, “The Ballot Box is simply a capitalist concession. Dropping pieces of paper into a hole in a box never did achieve emancipation of the working class, and in my opinion it never will.” Another bad example.

Religious communism could be a tough sell, even in America.

By the way, the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party USA should not be confused with the much smaller Maoist Revolutionary Communist Party, USA, which called George W. Bush a “Christian Fascist” and whose chairman, Bob Avarkian, is author of the book “Away With All Gods! Unchaining the Mind and Radically Changing the World.”

I guess that means the more traditional godless Communists are now the fundamentalists.

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  • Paganplace

    Well, I guess with more actual Communists around, the Right’ll have someone else to call Commies besides those who don’t want to get gouged on health insurance. 🙂

  • Farnaz1Mansouri1

    “And wasn’t it Lenin who said this? “Religion is the opium of the people.”David,Actually, no, it wasn’t Lenin. The quotation, “Religion is the opiate of the people” (a translation of “Die Religion … ist das Opium des Volkes”) originates in Marx’s introduction to “Contribution to Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right” (1843). The earliest like sentiment in print is “This opium you feed your people” [L’Histoire de Juliette (1797)]. Adorno took up Juliette, brilliantly, in “Dialectics of the Enlightenment.”Farnaz

  • jwendland

    I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised at how poorly the author researched for this post. The quote attributed to Lenin is actually a rather famous quote by Marx; and if you read the passage in full Marx actually expresses a great deal of sympathy for religious people. WaPo mighta shoulda tried to interview the Communist guy before making such a fool of itself with this rather silly post.

  • Paganplace

    “I grew up in Mormon Utah where everything all my life there was the fault of the “godless communists””Which is kind of funny, given their tithing, stockpiling and distribution. Still based on unsustainable capitalistic expansion, in too many ways, but they’ll call ‘Communist’ in government what they do in their own religion, just for their own and those who obey.

  • jitl

    communism could be RELIGIOUS but it’s NOT CHRISTIAN.. religion and christianity are as

  • ceflynline

    “communism could be RELIGIOUS but it’s NOT CHRISTIAN.. religion and christianity are asPosted by: jitlSince EVERY Catholic, and for that matter Orthodox, monastic order is by definition communist, there is no actual truth to your proposition. Since the Marxists and the Leninists, and the Maoists

  • ceflynline

    Since EVERY Catholic, and for that matter Orthodox, monastic order is by definition communist, there is no actual truth to your proposition. Since the Marxists and the Leninists, and the Maoists expropriated the concept of communism, and then subverted it, letting them get by with ownership of the term is a bad idea. By the way, the founder of my order, certainly a communist order, although not a monastic one, Francesco Bernadonne, was born in the Communo of Assisi, into a communist city in the not quite communist Papal States. HE, and we, do sort of think of ourselves as christian.Pax et Bonum.WE had the term more than 700 years before Marx and Lenin.

  • bird-1

    I have no use for Robert Mugabe, but Father Hagerty sounds like my kind of guy.

  • vulfplotkin

    Contraposition of communism and religious faith is a mistake, because communism (as I know it from spending a lifetime under its practical realization) is itself a religious cult with every attribute of religion except a god. It is an atheist religion different from its monotheist and polytheist rivals only in the basic creed – instead of “There is God” or “There are gods” it was “There are no gods”. After all, isn’t it more convenient for the communist priests to have no god to fear and obey!

  • Luighi

    The Communism is:giving according to how you own, but receiving according to how you need.

  • dataflunky

    Would religious communists be classified as “fellow travelers” or “useful idiots”?

  • coloradodog

    Please God, let the “religious” right go back to demonizing Communists for anything and everything. Gays, Muslims, Mexicans and Liberals need a break from their incessant droning from Hitler’s and Atwater’s playbooks to make others the common enemy for rallying the mindless masses like Limbaugh’s LemmingsI grew up in Mormon Utah where everything all my life there was the fault of the “godless communists” In the 70’s, the “prophet” Ezra Taft Benson allowed John Birch Society meeting in the local wards (churches) and the “Avenging Angels” rode again against anyone and everything they didn’t like including me one night as a Top 40 disc jockey playing “commie” rock and roll in LoganHow disappointing to them when Reagan “single-handidly” defeated the Communists (what a coincidence the system fell apart from the inside at the same time).Now lacking a Rovain “wedge issue” they have turned to gays, Mexicans and Muslims while continuing to call liberals “socialists” and “communists” as well. Let’s hope these weak minded bigots now return to their original scapegoat, the hapless communists and leave the rest of us alone for a change

  • Luighi

    An Spanish communist said communism are human rights cause in this statement it is said that EVERYBODY has the right to live with dignity, EVERYBODY has the right to have a home, a job and that respects their integrity; and that’s what communism aims.If someone wanna understand what I’m saying only need to read The Second Habana statement.

  • jimbob5

    Religious Faith within Communism is an oxymoron.

  • duppy_conqueror

    Incredibly interesting discussion.Communism as a ScienceCommunism is both a science and a revolutionary political movement. It is also a goal—not a utopia, but a liberating goal whose potential basis lies within the situation that confronts humanity, a situation where a leap is possible to a radically different and much better world.To understand the world, and to change it in the interests of humanity, people need scientific theory. Science is not some set of mysterious laws “belonging to the scientists.” Science, all real science, is a vital human activity that aims to learn the causes of phenomena the reasons why things happen and how they develop—and it seeks these causes in the material world, which includes human society. A scientific approach does not seek supernatural “explanations” nor does it accept any explanations which cannot be tested, and verified or disproved, in the real material world, but instead develops an initial theory based on evidence from the world, tests out the theory in actual practice and against the results achieved, and through this process arrives at a deepened understanding of what is true. That understanding must then be further applied to reality.Communism is a radical rupture from all religious outlooks. It has shown the way out of the spiritual slavery in which oppressed classes have been chained throughout history. It matters to know what’s real. There is no need to invent gods who supposedly control the natural world and humanity’s destiny. Without a scientific outlook, people are deprived of an understanding of the means and dynamics of change, of their own potential role in bringing about change—and of the joys and grandeur of discovery.And, beyond the break from traditional religion, a truly scientific and revolutionary outlook cannot be—must not involve any element of—a “resurrection” of religiosity in new forms. Communism is not a dogma or a set of scriptures. Just as there is no god in heaven, there is no predetermined “earthly end” toward which everything is bound to proceed. There is no idealized version of “nature” or “history” working toward the “inevitable” goal of communism. Tendencies toward such thinking that have existed in the history of the communist movement must be broken with. We need science, we need a scientific approach to everything. And the communist method and outlook provides that approach.

  • hightech2

    God on Abortion?J.T.:Me:The Male planets the seed, and should be responsible for the Fruit/Child the seed makes, whether Genetic or Physical Defective Children, or Multi-births, and conjoined births.Adam and Eve were born Equal Clone Adults, not Children, and were Good Fruit, they started Reproducing Children by Body Birth, Bad Fruit. Why?Were the Adam and Eve Clone Equal Society, ‘Innocent’ as to what made Heterosexual Body Birth Evil Fruit, on the Tree of LIFE?When the Snake/Male Member deceived them, they did begin Evil Fruit on Earth. Celibacy began, for Monks and Nuns in All Religions. Where did Human Celibacy come from, before Jesus’ Celibate Movement? There is an Asexual Designation for Humans, besides the Heterosexual Designation which makes GLBT Designations. Bill:The Wages of Body Birth Sin, is Death to a Planet. Body Birth Humans, lost their Virginity ‘in the beginning’, and have Evolved since the Planetary Flood. Humans again Reproduced by Body Birth, up to the High Tech Science Fetus and Clone Reproduction, like Adam and Eve Generation.Eternal Physical Life is for High Tech Purebred Human Male and Female Clones, ‘After Birth’, on Planets and in Spaceships.

  • SunsaraTaylor

    Dear Mr. Walters:Please explain why my post sent twice on Thursday and again on Friday has been censored from the comments.Thank you.

  • SunsaraTaylor

    (correction to previous post):I meant to address this to David Waters (not Walters)Looking forward to your reply.Thank you.

  • free_thinker

    After all this time, we Americans can’t divest from our predilection to assimilate religion into every fabric of our daily lives. The “wall of separation” was created by our enlightened founders and enacted in our very Constitution, because they understood the damage that religion can foster in any society. I’m neither a proponent or a detractor of people of “faith” – although, I’m adamant on their rights to practice and believe. However, until men and woman of all races, ethnicity, and religious believes can act more like the religions that they preach – act with tolerance, charity, and magnanimity, we need to be vigilant in our our support of the separation of church and state; whether it be demarcated in our pathetic two party state (what third party?) or the Communist Party.

  • zaphod71828

    Some poster sais:”…communism … is itself a religious cult with every attribute of religion except a god.”Yeah. And “” is a sentence with every attribute of sentences except words.”After all, isn’t it more convenient for the communist priests to have no god to fear and obey!”Nope. It’s been proven time and again that rulers do better when there is a god to fear. Look at Iran.

  • hightech2

    Bill:Me:How many different Faiths are there, besides Denominations? What kind of training can be given to Judges of different Faiths, to Rule on Faith Matters?How many different Faiths are there on Earth and in the USA, in One Religious Denomination? Christian means many things, and has resulted in many Denominations. If Members of Christianity cannot agree on their Basic Faith, how can All Judges and especially Five, possibly Six, Catholic Supreme Court Judges?Just ‘saying’ Jesus is God, since 300, has made many Planetwide Religions. American Christianity has many Synods, and are different from European Synods, etc.So What Federal, State, City, or County group, will come up with One Faith Rules in Government?Is the USA getting ready to make New Religious Faith Rules for Judges, about Abortion, and Marriage is between a man and woman, as Federal or State Laws? And Overturn Same Sex Marriage?How Educated and Free from a State Religion, are the Citizens and Children today, with the Faith in our Many Forefathers?

  • cmarshdtihqcom

    Godless communism would not fly in Cuba.

  • hightech2

    Humans today fly up in the air and out into Space, supernaturally, like the Gods in Scripture and Myth?Why did Humans take such Care, to keep handing down supernatural Gods, Generation by Generation, if Life Evolved on Earth?Why all the wasted Human Energy to build Religious Buildings, for Supernatural Gods, if Life on Earth Evolved?What does it mean in Genesis, God/Us Created Life as we Know it on a null and void Planet?And Reproduced Humans in their Image, Male and Female Clones. Supernaturally, they Reproduced the Female from the Male Rib, not by Body Birth. Not by Evolution.Since the Peace and Killer Gods in Religion and Myth, were both Supernatural, they could not both be the Same Loving Father God of ReligionAll past supernatural writings were put together, by past Human Societies, without High Tech Science. The Killer God was the Noah/Atlantis High Tech Society like Humans today. All Supernatural Writings and Myths with a High Tech Translation, Will Prove the Past High Tech History of Life on Earth. If Life Evolved, then there are many wasted years of Human Endeavor, to keep translating all the Old Time Religious Writings and Myths, and building Temples made by Human Hands.If Life Evolved up to our High Tech for the first time, in the last 100 years of Life on Earth, what are these writings about, called Scripture and Myth?Where did All the Science Fiction come from, in Religion and Myth, if Life Evolved on Earth up to today? Why have Humans had Supernatural Gods, that flew in the air, if High Tech life was not possible before the 1900s?This is a Mystery for Religious Columnist to Solve.

  • hightech2

    Rill Referral:Me:John the Baptist, Jesus’ Cousin, baptized Jesus into the Jewish Male Celibate Movement; Jesus became the Leader when John died.Through Jesus’ Disciples, The Jewish Male Celibate One God Movement, did spread to Egypt and Rome.In 300, this Jewish Celibate One God Movement, became the Holy Roman Catholic Trinity God Religion of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. A new Bible, the New Testament, included Jewish Holy Books, the Old Testament.The New Roman Trinity Religion had Celibate Monks and Nuns, and a Celibate Pope was made the Head. In the 1600s, Protesting Catholics, began the New Religious Movement. This Movement lost the Celibacy Teachings, and became a New Protestant Religion of many Divisions.The Differences are still present today, between Jews, Catholics and Protestants, all with the Same Original One God of the Jews.The Truth of all Religious Writings and Myths, can be explained with our High Tech today. Our High Tech Human Peace Ancestors that Colonized Earth, are the Lord God/Us in Genesis 1 and 2.There can be no Peace between all the Divided God Religions on Earth, started from this High Tech Science Human clone Species, until a High Tech Translation is used.Writings written and translated, Generation after Generation, in different languages about Supernatural Gods of Religion and Myth, were handed down by Humans who did not have High Tech Knowledge, as we do today.It is Time to Prove, if Life on Earth Evolved up to our High Tech Science in 1900, or, was Colonized, ‘in the beginning’ by our High Tech Science Celibate Peace Human Male and Female Clone Helpmeet Ancestors from Space.

  • hightech2

    Bill:Me:The God/Us in Genesis, were High Tech Humans, with Eternal Physical Life After Birth, on Planets and in Spaceships.Today, we give Humans Face Lifts, and Body Regeneration Operations that extend our Lifespans.But until we Reproduce High Tech Humans in the lab, and have High Tech Spaceships to escape our Planet when it Dies, we cannot have Eternal Physical Life After Birth on Planets. The Male and Female Clones in Genesis, lost this High Tech, when they Reproduced Defective Children by Heterosexual Body Birth.Eternal Physical Life After Birth, is for Purebred Male and Female Clone Helpmeets, not for Defective Children.High Tech Humans today, still have a Way to go, with our High Tech Science, to Learn this type of Human Reproduction, for Eternal Physical Life After Birth on Planets and in Spaceships.Body Birth Humans resulted in Division, Disease, and Generation Birth, Death, and Rebirth, with Earth’s Elements.What do we do now, with our High Tech Nuclear Bombs on Land and Sea? In Revelation, some Virgin Males will be Saved, by our Human Ancestors to be taken to a New Planet, like Adam, to start over Again. Will they Fall like the Adam and Eve Generation? Or keep their Eternal Physical Male and Female Clone Life, After Birth, with Balanced High Tech Science like our Human Ancestors?

  • hightech2

    Happy Fourth of July. The Fourth of July is Celebrated as the founding, of the USA without a State Religion in 1776, after the Revolutionary War with England, with Freedom from the Catholic State Religion, for Protestants.In 1860, After Lincoln was Elected President, Some of the States in the South, seceded, and made a Confederate Government, with their own President, money, armory, Etc.A Civil War, (1861-1865) finally United the States back together; more States were added, up to 50 today. The USA should have One Government, and One Set of Equal Rules for All Citizens, Straight, Gay, or Atheists, and, Freedom from a Federal and State Government Religion Practices. If the USA has Equality for all Citizens, Why does the USA Federal and State Governments have Christian Rites, Prayers, and Holidays?The 50 United States should be Embassy’s, not Separate Countries, with their Laws, Taxes, etc.Why do States have extra Taxes and Laws for Citizens? How can the USA be United as One Government, with so many different Laws/Rules for Each Citizen? When will USA/America become One Nation, with Equality and Liberty, and, The Pursuit of Happiness, with One Equal Set of Rules/Laws, for ALL Citizens?In Time, will the USA be the Ruler of the Whole Planet of Added Countries, with their Local State, County, and City Laws and Taxes?Should God Bless America, to be the Ruler of All Countries on Planet Earth?God did Bless America, with the biggest Weapons Arsenal, and Military Bases, around the Planet. When will God Bless the Peacemakers on Planet Earth, with One Equal Planet Government, without Weapons of Massive Destruction, Pollution, Killing, Wars, and ‘Taxes’?Sounds Like Heaven?

  • hightech2

    It seems Humans cannot make sense of Holocaust Deniers about Germany, in the 1920-40s. How can these Human Deniers, and Humans that accept the German Holocaust, make sense of all the Holocaust Pollution and Nuclear Waste, High Tech Humans are doing to our Home Planet Earth today?Making Nuclear Waste for Bombs, and Nuclear Waste for Electricity, is not the High Tech Science God/Us Way, for Eternal Physical Life After Birth. It is Satan’s Way of Planetary Death.Why do Humans use their High Tech for Evil? How do Humans follow on Earth, God/Us or Satan? What are Humans going to do, when the Planet starts Burning with the Pollution and Nuclear Waste, that will cause the Planetary Judgement Day Fire? Call upon the Name of the Peace Lord, who talked and walked with Humans, and ‘said Thou Shalt Not Kill?Who Knows the Name of the Peace Lord God/Us, Creator of Life on Earth in Genesis? Humans that Pollute and Kill do not serve this God/Us.So do Humans keep Blindly Polluting the Earth with Trash, and Reproducing Nuclear Bombs and Lasers, for Satan, and keep praying to God/Us for help?Or, Will Humans Wake up and smell the Roses, before they cannot grow in our polluted ground?It is up to Humans, not God/Us, if we survive on Planet Earth. God/Us gave Humans the Free Will to be Caretakers or Killers. What is the Verdict for Planet Earth? Life or Death?