Pope’s Anglican welcome could revolutionize the Church

THIS CATHOLIC’S VIEW By Thomas J. Reese, S.J. The new Vatican structures for dealing with Anglicans who want to join … Continued


By Thomas J. Reese, S.J.

The new Vatican structures for dealing with Anglicans who want to join the Catholic Church may have significant and unforeseen consequences. They may in fact provide the Catholic Church with a steady supply of married priests.

Some critics see the new procedures as a blow to relations between Catholics and Anglicans, but leaders from both churches deny this. Cardinal William Levada said that the Catholic Church is still committed to ecumenical dialogue with the Anglican Communion leading to unity in future, but the Vatican felt it could not turn away the many Anglicans who want to be reunited with the church now.

Some would argue that if these Anglicans are going to leave the Anglican Communion anyway, it would be better to have them join the Catholic Church than be off on their own.

Archbishop Rowan Williams, the Anglican primate, accepted the Vatican explanation and in a letter to Anglican leaders wrote, “In the light of recent discussions with senior officials in the Vatican, I can say that this new possibility is in no sense at all intended to undermine existing relations between our two communions or to be an act of proselytism or aggression. It is described as simply a response to specific inquiries from certain Anglican groups and individuals wishing to find their future within the Roman Catholic Church.”

After the Catholic Church adopted numerous reforms following the Second Vatican Council, many people hoped that Catholics and Anglicans would reunite as ecumenical dialogue progressed. But Anglicanism continued to evolve in directions that led it away from Catholic practices, especially in the ordination of women and in its teaching about homosexuality.

These developments also divided the Anglican Communion, leading some Anglicans who opposed the ordination of women and gays to approach the Catholic Church about union.

The Catholic Church has always been willing to accept individual Anglicans who want to join the church. For more than a decade, it has allowed married Anglican priests to act as priests after they were ordained by a Catholic bishop.

What is new in these procedures is the possibility of admitting not just individuals but groups and even whole dioceses. Cardinal Levada, prefect of the Congregation for Doctrine of the Faith, said that 20 to 30 Anglican bishops have enquired about union with the Vatican.

Also new are provisions for personal ordinariates, headed by a former Anglican bishop or priest, where the new Catholics would be allowed to preserve their Anglican spiritual and liturgical heritage. These ordinariates are similar to ones that minister to the military in various countries and could even have houses of formation to train future priests.

Married Anglican priests and seminarians joining the Catholic Church could be ordained and function as priests, said Cardinal Levada. Married bishops could be ordained priests but could not function as bishops since this is not the practice in either the Catholic or Orthodox tradition.

The consequences of these new procedures are yet to be seen. How many Anglicans will take advantage of them? Only a handful of Anglican parishes took advantage of a much smaller program established for the U.S. in 1980. But this new structure is both more generous and universal.

Catholic liberals, especially Catholic feminists, fear that an influx of conservative Anglicans will further discourage reform in the Catholic Church. In any case, someone should warn these Anglicans that two out of three U.S. Catholics support the ordination of women. They will not find in Catholicism a controversy-free zone.

But if the new procedures are used by large numbers of Anglicans, the result will be a more liberal Anglican Church and a more conservative Catholic Church, especially if liberal Catholics decide to go in the other direction. These procedures may be an admission that leaders in all churches have lost control of the ecumenical movement and people are simply voting with their feet.

The long-term impact of these procedures on the Catholic Church could be significant. We will now have three approved versions of the Roman Catholic liturgy: the pre-Vatican II Latin Mass, the reformed vernacular liturgy, and now an Anglican liturgy. Some born Catholics may find the Anglican-Catholic liturgy preferable to the other two and start attending Mass in Anglican ordinariate parishes.

And while we have always had numerous Eastern Catholic liturgies, pluralism has been discouraged in the Western (or Latin-rite) Catholic liturgy since the Council of Trent. But once we have three versions, it is more difficult to argue against more.

Despite all the Vatican attempts to downplay the acceptance of married Anglican priests, many people will ask why not married priests for other Catholics? Cardinal Levada said that not only married Anglican priests will be ordained but also married Anglican seminarians who join the Catholic Church. The Vatican has made clear that married Catholic priests will not be welcomed back to the priesthood, but could a married Catholic man join the Anglicans, enter an Anglican seminary and then return to the Catholic Church? If so, this could become a rich source of priests for the Catholic Church.

The Vatican also says that the Anglican ordinariates would have their own seminarians who could have houses of formation but would study with other Catholic seminarians. I presume this means married seminarians, otherwise the Vatican will deny these former Anglicans what they see as an essential part of their spiritual and liturgical tradition. Married and celibate seminarians in the same course of studies will certainly be an interesting experiment. It will either strengthen a celibate’s vocation or break it.

More importantly, could married Roman Catholic men from the traditional dioceses join the Anglican ordinariate and become seminarians and priests? If so, we have just solved the priest shortage problem and within a generation there will be more priests in the Anglican ordinariates than in the traditional dioceses. The rest of the people will soon follow and the Anglican ordinariate will hold a majority of Roman Catholics.

Thomas J. Reese, S.J., is Senior Fellow at Woodstock Theological Center at Georgetown University.

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  • ccnl1

    Hmmm, the situation is about fairness to the current Catholic clergy when it comes to Anglican/Episcopalian priests converting to Catholicism and becoming priests in said religion and not having to take the vow of celibacy. One would hope that in the near future the idiocy of having celibate Catholic priests will end and maybe if more Anglican priests switch allegiance, it will hasten the process. Considering, however, the flaws in the historical and theological foundations of the Catholic/Anglican Church, all priests will be “pink slipped” in ten years.

  • ceflynline

    It might happen that as the Catholics who desire married clergy will migrate to the Uniate Anglican Rite, the Catholics who do not desire married clergy will have fewer aggregate parishes to spread their clergy across and the parishes that move to the Anglican Rite will occupy some, or, hopefully, many of the remaining parishes. If there is any significant movement from Anglican to Uniate Anglican Churches, without those returnees bringing their church property with them, there are certainly enough idle Roman Catholic churches out there for them to occupy.And as for the Church permitting the development of more Rites in the Western Church, there being as much pressure already to modify the vernacularized Latin Rite to reflect local customs and usages, (dance, especially in African Churches being one example) that permitting the development of those rites is quite a bit overdue.

  • DoTheRightThing

    How unintelligent and disloyal for Father Reese to state that, by the Roman Catholic Church allowing married Anglican priests to become Catholic priests upon conversion, such married Catholic priests would cause the Catholic seminaries to allow married seminarians. This is a non-sequitur of the most rudimentary kind. Being a Jesuit, Father Reesse (hopefully) had a more rigorous academic schooling than he displays in this article.

  • tojby_2000

    DOTHERIGHTTHING WROTE:How unintelligent and disloyal for Father Reese to state that, by the Roman Catholic Church allowing married Anglican priests to become Catholic priests upon conversion, such married Catholic priests would cause the Catholic seminaries to allow married seminarians. This is a non-sequitur of the most rudimentary kind._________________________________________

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  • Geosota

    This was the best article I have read about the Catholic/Anglican recent issue. Speaking as an Episcopalian, I would like to note that for generations our church has had a better relationship with Catholics than any other “protestant” denomination. Ours is often the church of choice for Catholic/Protestant married couples.My priest is a lesbian who was raised Catholic. She is wonderful. I am glad she found a home here.Meanwhile, many Episcopalians are appalled by changes to our church and many Catholics are not attending mass because of its conservative policies.This wider opening of the ecumenicism between the communions can only be good for both. Jesus said in John 14:2, “In my father’s house are many mansions. If it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.”Thus saith the word of the Lord. Levada and Williams should be commended. As Christmas approaches, it is refreshing to hear we will be increasingly welcome in each other’s homes.

  • ceflynline

    More and More to think about:ONLY those Churches that have some full form of the Mass, Mass of the Chatecumens and Mass of the Faithful, (offertory, consecration, communion) and all that can actually bring in their “Rites and Customs” That is basically some Anglicans and some Lutherans, who also are currently belaboring each other brutally about proper doctrine and belief and discipline. Should both sects bring sizable communities back into the Church, and those communities begin using their particular rites, how many of us would be able to tell the difference in an Anglican Rite or Lutheran Rite Mass? (Given that to be a mass it has to have all the parts?) As they would be in the language of their congregations, (Latin having been abandoned by each when they split to show that they HAD split) and therefore “in the vernacular”. If I didn’t see the Uniate xxx sign on the marquee would I know the difference inside? They obviously won’t be preaching heresy, so the homily, or the sermon if I can identify the difference, won’t tell me.What differences will actually mark these new Rites?

  • jcampion1

    Most all that I have read on this new Vatican policy focuses, it seems, on its impact on the Anglican communion in the U.S. While this is understandable, it does not give sufficient attention to the most significant thrust of the policy – its impact on the Anglican communion in Africa. The African communion is in most respects the most conservative of the Anglican communion. Many dioseces already restrict the office of bishop to unmarried clergy. It is the fastest growing area of Anglicanism. Here is where I think the new policy will have its greatest impact.

  • agapn9

    If God is behind Unification then it will happen and flourish, if not it won’t.

  • destinysmom

    What’s a “liberal” Catholic to do? If I join a new “Anglican Rite” parish, I would have a priest who is married but who, along with the parishioners, has problems with women and with homosexual men. And I would have to increase my colletion offering to support a family instead of a single male.

  • jbedia

    I respectfully urge the author of this piece and his sympathizers to reserve judgment and predictions on the matter. Let’s wait for the release of the APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION before making speculative comments about it PROBABLE consequences. This news should be celebrated and instead the author highlights its impacts on a negative light. The Roman Catholic Church survived great trials and tribulations throughout human history. This latest development pales to the issues of the past.

  • Tiparillo

    Who cares? Isn’t it time for another hate-filled, content free Bill Donohue rant?

  • gamma64

    Lest we forget: we are all God’s children. Do we not believe in the same God? We should not let our human failings get in the way of good people. Religious politics should have no place in the hearts of the followers of the Lord. These are ideas and concepts from our religious history that we cannot ignore!

  • RPW3

    “God is Dead” — Friedrich NietzscheMonotheism fails through lack of attention to the importance of socio-economic archetypes and specifically the relationships among them. It moves inexorably towards the amoral seeking of money as power, socio-economic disintegration, ineffectual leadership and the rise of intellectual poverty within society. The appreciation of diversity in the performance of socio-economic tasks and the mutual security of human society achieved through mutually beneficial relationships evaporates into a malaise about everything but power, which is gotten not through human collaboration but through trickery, propaganda and political manipulation. The relegation of the importance of socio-economic roles and their relationships to a human junk pile is the final failure of monotheism. God reigns in chaos.The importance of polytheism is that archetypal roles are defined as well as the relationships among them. It the relationships among the gods in polytheism that are important. Are they getting along? Are they collaborating for the good of Mankind? What is the nature of these relationships one-to-one and how do the formalities of those relationships create civilization?The fact that Americans are more religious than any other nation on earth, having faith and belief in the singular theism of One God (the idea that a dyadic relationship between the self and one superior being as all that is necessary), while the detailed structure of relationships within their society disintegrates, is the predictive of US socio-economic failure. The cornucopia wrought of cultural diversity of Americans collaborating for mutual success evaporates with the loss of appreciation for that diversity and its functionality in maintaining American civilization. The appreciation for the diverse goals of each individual and their accomplishments, which historically were popular American social values, disappears in the singular goal of individual power – as national power is insidiously dissipated through loss of socio-economic cohesion – and the achievement of national goals and national power evaporates with the loss of synergism. The ideals of individualism (ones relationship with oneself) and monotheism (dyadic relationship of oneself with a superior power) have resulted in the devaluation of cooperative relationships which were the means to mutual security and affluenceIt is the formality of our relationships with one another which need mending to recreate mutual success and security – not our individual relationships with a single immutable power. Monotheism has failed US.(I AM still an Episcopalian!)

  • jbedia

    “God is Dead” — Friedrich Nietzsche.

  • jbedia

    We are all discussing BLINDLY here. NONE OF US is a CANON LAWYER – even the author. We should re-convene and discuss further when the APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION governing ‘Personal Ordinariates’ is released.The Roman Catholic prefect of the Congregation for Doctrine of the Faith and the Anglican primate accepted the Vatican’s explanation on this move. I just don’t understand why the author is expressing otherwise.

  • VirginiaReader1

    This article lumps together Anglicans who oppose ordination of gay clergy with those who (years ago) opposed the ordination of women. I don’t think this is an accurate depiction and probably there are female Anglican priests who do not support the ordination of gay clergy. I think this could be a sticking point for some Anglicans joining the Catholic church (and there are other, liturgical reasons as well). Anyway, if some do, God bless them and make them happy with their choice. I do not see it being such a big boon, quite frankly, since those married priests who do move over likely will create pressure for the Catholic church to allow its mainstream clergy to marry and/or a faction that does not accept married clergy and rejects the new members. That would be an irony, that a division in one denomination, and another’s attempt to assist, causing a division among its own members.

  • Judy-in-TX

    Father Reese:

  • destinysmom

    from jbedia:The mother of all quotes taken out of context. Read and ponder the full quote:

  • Carl_Goss

    Henry VIII must be spinning in his grave!***I wonder: Will the RCs start demanding the return of all that RC property Henry confiscated during the Protestant Revolution?

  • eomcmars

    what I’d love to see is for a female Anglican priest to step forward and say she wants to take Rome up on its offer!

  • Prosperity2008

    I am a Roman Catholic who has been thinking about jumping over to the Anglicans as I have watched my Church become more and more conservative and single-minded. I wish the Archbishop of Canterbury would offer liberal Catholics the deal that the Vatican gave to conservative Anglicans.

  • Matthew_DC

    It’s a good move all around. The Anglicans remove an apparent problem for themselves, and perhaps the far-left Catholics will find a new home in the ECUSA. It should be emphasized though that Rome didn’t go looking to pick up these traditional Anglicans. They persistently called upon Rome. Regarding liturgy, there was western divergence pre-Trent, so the situation is not unprecedented and not a problem. As for married men and ordination, perhaps that will be a final act permitted by Benedict in his eventful papacy. It’s a conservative act, so it shouldn’t be a problem. The ordination of women will have to remain within ECUSA.

  • WestTexan2008

    Some thoughts on the article and the situation:Those who were going to leave The Episcopal Church over women and gay issues have already left. Those who remain see the women and gay issues as symptoms of a radical shift in authority away from Scripture and toward the zeitgeist. This is not a particularly subtle point, but one that tends to allude reporters, including this writer. Until recently, Anglicans used a process of evaluating theological issues through Scripture, tradition and reason. More recently, personal experience has been added to the mix – often becoming the trump (“I experience this as a blessing so it must be Godly – your use of Scripture is faulty.”).Many if not most of the ‘high church’ and Catholic parts of the Episcopal Church have already left, migrating to Rome, Orthodoxy or various offshoot denominations. Others have already developed a ‘back up’ plan to jump to a foreign Anglican bishop who is more theologically traditional. Many more may still leave, but I suspect that the actual numbers of Episcopalians who take Rome up on its offer will be relatively small.Much is made of the various court fights over property, but many, if not most, Episcopalians are emotionally tied to their churches in a way that Baptists are not. Question: “How many Episcopalians does it take to change a light bulb?” Answer: “my grandmother donated that bulb, and even though it’s burned out, we’re not changing it and we’re not leaving.”

  • tcrown

    It is a great day and God’s will that reunites our brothers and sisters in Christ. We have been seperated far to long. “Give to Cesear that which belongs to Cesear but give to god that which belongs to god”! The Catholic faith does not change with time nor the seasons or politcal party. There is only one holy,Catholic and apostolic church and we are it’s members.

  • Robe2

    What does the Queen and Prince Charles think of all of this?I believe she is the head of the Anglican Church, and more outspoken Charles will be some day?

  • Aquarius1

    This is another example of the hypocrisy of the Roman Catholic leadership when it makes decisions touching upon social issues. If the rule has been against married priests for lo these many centuries, then why is it now acceptable for some priests to be married? (Let´s not even use the term celibate since we all know how often that rule has been broken!) I thought the argument against married priests was rooted in theology (Jesus wasn´t married, and on) but now in order to get a few more desperately needed priests, the Pope decides in favor of a few disaffected Anglicans? As an Anglican I say God Speed to those who want to leave the Communion and I´m glad that they will be so easily accepted into the Catholic fold, but the basic hypocrisy really is mindboggling.

  • josefkhen

    RPW3: Before you reject monotheism as having a negative influence on a society, please find an opportunity to inform yourself about the Reformed tradition of Protestant Christianity. The points you make about power may apply to an episcopal form of church polity (structured with power concentrated at the top), but they don’t apply at all to Reformed polity (structured with power at the congregational level, which empowers the higher levels).

  • outragex

    I grew up Episcopalian and still have a lot of friends in both the liberal and conservative (spin-off) camps of that tradition. I don’t see most of the conservative group as wanting to become Catholic. I doubt many will take the offer from the Vatican.Most of the conservatives identify more with conservative, evangelical Protestant traditions that are at odds with traditional Catholicism in important ways. Also, the conservatives are finding their own outlet by aligning with conservative bishops from Africa, so they don’t need to accept all of the Catholic dogma to continue being a denomination. My spin-off friends seem to really enjoy founding a new form of Amercian Anglicanism that will in their opinion “finally get it rigtht.” Lastly, conservative Episcopalians are a stubborn and independent minded bunch who are not likely to want to surrender their new found authority to a top-down church led by the Pope.

  • cococo

    The Catholic Church has been trying to purge liberals since Pope John Paul II. My former religion has many wonderful people in it still, but I’m out of it. I remember when Pope John Paul II first allowed the married Anglican priests to join, if they joined in protest to women becoming ordained. My church got one: sexist, ultra-right wing, awful (and my old pastor was a very kind-hearted man with great outreach). And now they’re allowing the right-wing offended to join up while people like me are leaving.

  • Bluefish2012

    If one views this development as an act of Divine Providence (and how can a faithful Catholic not view it that way?), its effects on the Church can only be for the good.Many have longed for union with Christians whose English traditions were enviably beautiful. Who would have thought it would happen this way? God is full of surprises.

  • kevbel

    @jbedia: “Friedrich Nietzsche.. him? he is a crazy.. look it up! he was even associated with Hitler. But thanks for the input.. really appreciate it.”Might I suggest YOU LOOK IT UP? Nietzsche died in 1900 when Hitler was 11.

  • Bluefish2012

    outragex said: My spin-off friends seem to really enjoy founding a new form of Amercian Anglicanism that will in their opinion “finally get it right.” __________________But how many different Protestant traditions have spun off in an attempt to “get it right?” Does creating another one get you to the spot where “they all may be one?”

  • logcabin1836

    Obviously some members of the Anglican church prefer to have their gay clergy hidden from view than to have them openly preach in the pulpit. Gay Anglican Clergy vs. Gay Catholic Clergy. Tough choice.

  • kase

    Do we really need EVEN MORE catholics?

  • qqbDEyZW

    I wish the church luck in getting more followers as we see Priest, Law Makers and those we respect who hold their Christian Family/Moral Values out for all the see. Yes these same people are committing the worse sins. Children have grown up with the history of being raped while in church. Every religion is doing the same thing as they try to get people for what money they can give. Mormons, Jehovah’s Witness’s and others are pushing hard for more church goers. As we see the Churches have become businesses and not really interested in God’s word. I had a shock when I was told my voting place was at the church. No I mailed in my vote, I will never disrespect God.

  • jbedia

    BLUEFISH2012 – Officially, there is about 35,000 Christian denomination. These denominations keep on disagreeing with another and when they can’t meet eye-to-eye, they sever ties and and form a NEW RELIGION – even revising the Bible to suit their interpretation. THEN THEY CLAIM TO BE THE TRUE CHURCH – Duh!

  • jbedia

    OUTRAGEX – This development is NOT an offer from the Vatican. It is an answer to the clamours and requests of 40 Anglican bishops representing 400,000-700,000 members to re-unite with the Roman Catholic Church. It’s a PROVISION due to the request signified by disillusioned Anglicans. Just to straight the facts right. Thanks for reading.

  • devinederrida

    When Pope John Paul II first allowed married Episcopal priests to transfer and function as priests in the RCC my wife wrote a letter to the NY Times (which they published) complaining why I (as a former Jesuit priest) could not do the same? Did I have to convert to Episcopalianism and then convert back to the Roman Church, she asked? Her question was rhetorical but it does point out the inconsistency of the Vatican. The problem I have with today’s announcement is that it seems mean-spirited. Why are we R. Catholics beating up on these wonderful women priests and the gay bishops of the Episcopal Church? Why does the Pope not engage in true ecumenical dialogue which would mean having the RCC examine its own conscience and begin to deconstruct many of the definitions of the Councils (like transubstantiation and infallibility)?

  • jewishmother

    Wait a minute: So, all those adults believe that a married woman with children who was still a virgin got pregnant by a spirit and gave birth to God. Pretty scary!Imagine you haven’t had sex with your wife for years. She pops up pregnant. She explains, “the spirit did it to me”. That Joseph guy wasn’t too bright, was he?

  • waztec

    The Pope and Cardinal Levada, who went to my high school, are reaching out to conservative Anglicans in a transparent attempt to fortify the conservative base of the Catholic church. Sadly, there is no longer any place in Catholicism for those of us who viewed Vatican II as a renaissance. My disagreement with the church has everything to do with decisions made by priests on policy and not what Christ actually said. I am particularly appalled by clergy interference in the political system of the U.S.So I am out. I think it is better to be out and true to my conscience than in and hypocritical.

  • lufrank1

    Nothing like dragging MORE folks backwards into DARK AGES dogma and mythology.

  • veolaluzporfa

    Chauvinists and bigots unite! The whole thing is nuts – they believe that a god who is appeased by blood sacrifice and blind faith prefers to only be spoken about by humans with a masculine form – and they think the rest of us are wacky?

  • tfburke19

    Father Reese paints a bleak picture of the future church and confirms what I had expected: Benedict XVI is making a real mess of the church. This is what happens when ideology trumps faith.

  • djmolter

    Married priests are OK now? Why not female priests? Why not married female priests. Why not get rid of the pederasts first? I expect pieces of the True Cross to show up soon on Vatican-run EBay auctions.

  • Farnaz1Mansouri1

    Continued: Several of the Salesian criminal record holders were shielded in San Francisco by Cardinal Levada himself. According to court testimony, Levada promoted Salesian molester, Fr. Bernard Dabbenne, to a top position for the West Coast, after a witness complained that Dabbenne had molested him. Dabbenne was later convicted when he was caught in the act of molestation by the SF Police.Fr. Steve Whelan, was kept in ministry, with children, after Levada was told Whelan was being sued for child abuse. Whelan was found guilty by court trial, while he was still in active ministry with children.Another Salesian friend of Cardinal Levada, Fr. Larry Lorenzoni, is an accused serial molester, and is scheduled to go on trial next month.Fr. Larry Lorenzoni is known as a famous writer, and has penned a well known phrase that the Salesians are proud of:”The average person, thinks he isn’t”. (As in, the average person thinks he isn’t average. . . . clever)Now, to this famous accused Salesian serial abuser, Fr. Lorenzoni, I dedicate this new phrase:”The average Salesian molester, claims he isn’t”.Many of these Salesians are accused serial molesters, and even when convicted and found guilty by courts and jury trials, they continue to deny wrongdoing. Many of the confirmed Salesian molesters were transferred after reports of abuse against them were made.Maybe it is the disgrace of being the World Record Holder accused clergy molesters that has made the Salesians of California the angry, unremorseful group they are today, or perhaps the lawsuits with countless victims.In any case, many of these men are still around locally. The bottom line is, California Beware!”

  • Farnaz1Mansouri1

    Cardinal Levada, hmm? I’ve been wondering how he’s found his Roman occupation. Does he miss the Salesians much? (I miss the Tom Reese, whose work I used to read, and no Catholic, yours truly.)By Joey PiscitelliThe following Salesians have been accused of sex crimes in California, including abuse, molestation, rape, sodomy, lewd and lascivious conduct, felony child abuse, copulation, and sexual deviation: Fr. Larry Lorenzoni, Fr. Richard Presenti, Fr. Bernard Dabbenne, Fr. Steve Whelan, Bro. Sal Billante, Bro. Jesse Dominguez, Fr. Jim Miani, Fr. Harold Danielson, Bro. Mark Epperson, Fr. Mario Blanco, Bro. Anthony Juarez, Bro. Ernie Martinez, Fr. Emanual Palayo, Fr. Juan Sanchez, Bro. John Verhart, Fr. Fleming, Fr. Al Mengon, Bro. John Vas, Bro. Ralph Murguia, Bro. Dan Pacheco, and Mr. Sam Vitone.Cardinal William Levada shielded and covered for so many Salesian accused molesters that victims of the Salesians have nicknamed the Salesian pedophiles -“Levada’s Boys”. Still, Levada has shown no shame or remorse, nor has he apologized.


    Ummmmmmmmmm.CCNL1 & CO., Time for your MEDs:Pleazzza; Take the Weekends Off. And Let the “PROFESSIONALS” handle the Local/international Politic/Religio issues/Matters via this Blogg and manage the PS: Dear mr. Note: OUR attorneys and FBI & CIA & HLS & Pentagon are watching closely.Note: You do not Help WAPO; only make matters Worse. Hence WAPO is digging a hole deeper & deeper as long as they keep your CCNL1 name alive.PS: WE [i] have David Waters personal Cell Pjone #. And Sally Quinn’s # Too et al. Would you like to call Them? [i] WE could make it Public but that would be unprofessional aye chap?PS: STOP abusing or drowning ME [i] OUR works, and disrespecting other Bloggers whom are way way smarter than Thee! How much attention does your Insecure (low I.Q.) mind needs.

  • mmeyerdc

    A postmodern church in a postmodern world: is there anyone who believes Benedict doesn’t know about postmodernism and doesn’t understand what he is doing? I find it fairly astonishing: Benedict is a radical postmodernist.

  • ccnl1

    Well, the weekend is here and our “new” “gibberisher” is hard at work knowing that the moderators are off for the weekend. Adding a bit of free space got the moderators early attention last week. Let see how it works this week. Apparently, this “gibberisher” is the same person who simply gets another email address for registration purposes (there are ~1500 email providers on the net). You would think said person would get tired of all this subterfuge and being banned every week. Apparently re-registering does not bother said odd and strange individual

  • davidcruzuribe

    I want to point out one small mistake and another problem/opportunity that the author did not notice. First, while Trent suppressed most of the rites in existence in the 16th century, several were demonstrated to have sufficient antiquity and orthodoxy to be allowed to continue. I am aware of two: the Ambrosian rite in northern Italy (Milan, really) and the Mozarabic rite in Spain. John Paul II did a great deal to invigorate this latter rite. Second, the author did not notice the problems that this new arrangement for anglo-Catholics will cause with the Eastern rites. Eastern Rite Catholics have always had a married priesthood, but they are barred from having married priests in the United States, presumably because of the corrosive effect this would have on clerical celibacy in the Latin rite. Now, however, Anglo-Catholics will be allowed a married priesthood. Eastern rite Catholics often feel like second class citizens, and I would worry that this will do nothing for their morale. On the other hand, if they are allowed to also have a married clergy in the U.S., the Latin rite will be under even more pressure to allow this.

  • Bluefish2012

    RPW3, I appreciate your elegant statement, but why are individualism (individual => God) and relationships among people mutually exclusive states? Love God, love neighbor,right?