Becoming all-American Muslims

It took Muslims a full three months to figure out a strategy to counter the campaign against Cordoba House, otherwise … Continued

It took Muslims a full three months to figure out a strategy to counter the campaign against Cordoba House, otherwise known as “the Ground Zero Mosque.” This time around, it took about three hours.

I’m referring to the lighting-fast organizing that took place once word got out that Lowe’s had pulled its ads from All American Muslim, pressured by the Florida Family Association who were disappointed that the show didn’t offer enough airtime to Muslim extremists (That’s true by the way. You can’t make this stuff up).

The hashtag #loweshatesmuslims lit up the Twitter-sphere, thousands of people threatened to boycott, mainstream television channels started reporting on the story, star power in the form of Perez Hilton and Russell Simmons jumped on board.

Lots of other people have weighed in on the bigotry at play here. I’d like to comment on a somewhat different dynamic: the Americanization of the Muslim community, especially the immigrant segment. A community that not long ago wanted only the comfort and confinement of its own bubble is learning the great American art of building bridges.

There are bridges of three sorts being built.

The first bridge is to the influence-centers of American society. In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, there were hardly any Muslims on television saying, “What you just saw was not Islam, it was just evil.” That’s not because Muslims weren’t thinking those things, it’s just that very few of us knew anything about American media or politics. That’s the moment most Muslims realized the bubble was a mistake. Muslims started becoming writers and organizers, and got savvy about media and politics.

The anti-Ground Zero Mosque campaign showed that it’s not enough to have a bridge to the influence-centers in American society, we needed the ability to respond rapidly. If the #loweshatesmuslims campaign illustrates anything, it’s that Muslims will never be Ground Zero Mosque-d again.

The second type of bridge being built is the internal one, within the Muslim community. All American Muslim generated a lot of controversy amongst Muslims, a good deal of it from more traditional believers who didn’t like the community represented by people sporting tattoos and hanging out in clubs. But once Lowe’s pulled its advertising, even high-profile orthodox Muslims like Yasir Qadhi showed their outrage at the hardware chain, and thus their implicit support for the show.

Muslims, like every religious community, have a dizzying number of internal differences – theological interpretations, political persuasions, levels of observance, etc. These differences have long dominated discourse amongst Muslims, causing ugly divisions and an unhealthy blindness to the gathering storm from without. But now that the storm is upon us, we are banding together. Muslims of one sort who might otherwise actively denounce Muslims of another sort are now finding themselves supporting one another, all under the canopy of what I call ‘Big Tent Islam.’ There is a blessing to the forces of prejudice being so brutal and blatant: it’s uniting Muslims.

The final type of bridge is to other communities. Perez Hilton, who proudly wears the label “the internet’s most notorious gossip,” has shone his large and lurid spotlight on the issue. The hip hop mogul Russell Simmons has been tweeting and writing about the campaign and even went so far as to buy all the advertising space on the show. Perez Hilton is gay, Russell Simmons is black. Both have witnessed discrimination against their own communities and are therefore quick to jump to the aid of others who suffer the same. And they are not the only ones. The first tweet that Lowe’s responded to over the controversy was from interfaith activist Chris Stedman, who happens to be a gay atheist.

Bridges run two ways, especially the bridge to other communities. Muslims are indeed the victims of ugly prejudice, but we are far from the only ones. The vicious attacks on the Mormon faith in the presidential campaign, the continuing bullying of gay kids in schools – there’s lots of ugliness out there. Where are Muslims when it comes to other people’s suffering?

You cannot ask from others what you are unwilling to give. I know that Muslims are grateful that black hip hop visionaries like Russell Simmons, gay pop icons like Perez Hilton and so many others are going out on a limb for us. But that’s simply not enough. You have to offer what you seek.

Having a reality show called All American Muslim doesn’t make you American, not in the George Washington-Jane Addams-Martin Luther King Jr sense at least. Mobilizing to defend your own rights is a start. But if we want to go all the way to the heart of this nation’s greatness, we have to follow in the footsteps of Perez Hilton, Russell Simmons and Chris Stedman. We have to do for others what they are doing for us, at the same scale, with the same profile, even if it’s risky and uncomfortable.

The single most American thing you can do is stand up for someone else.

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  • ccnl1

    Becoming All-American realists in the 21st century:

    • There was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • There was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

  • mrrogers1

    Apparently the Belgian terrorist who declared Jihad on Christmas shoppers was not alone.

    The Karachi Post in Pakistan claimed that the attack was linked to a sentence in an honour killing case. It said the parents of Sadia Sheikh were sentenced on Monday when there had been a bomb alert in the court.

    RIP all those who were killed in this sensless jihad attack.

  • ccnl1

    Continued from above:

    19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country’s controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

    20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

    21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

    22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) — Hena Akhter’s last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh’s Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

    23) “October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. “

  • AngryTurtle

    What point are you trying to get across here? That evil people did evil things?

    15,241 people were murdered in the United States in 2009 – how many of those acts were committed by Christians? 16,442 the year before. Now, of course, you could put my argument off as obfuscation, but, the basic tenet remains. An entire sect of people cannot be held accountable by fellow followers – it just doesn’t hold water. If it were, every Christian in America should be consistently lmabasted for the actions of Timothy McVeigh.

  • ccnl1

    Continued from above:

    The capture of Ratko Mladić: (Serbian Cyrillic: Ратко Младић, pronounced [râtkɔ mlǎːditɕ], born 12 March 1943[1][2]) is an accused war criminal and a former Bosnian Serb military leader. On May 31, 2011, Mladić was extradited to The Hague, where he was processed at the detention center that holds suspects for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY).[3] His trial began on 3 June 2011.

    – the bloody terror brought about by the Ja-panese, Na-zis and Co-mmunists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

    – Bin Laden was executed for crimes against humanity on May 1, 2011

    – Ditto for Anwar al-Awlaki on September 30, 2011

  • Indian51

    Eboo, where is your sense of outrage for the non-Muslims who are victims of violence in Islamic countries, especially in Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt, Sudan and other places. Non-Muslims are harassed, threatened and murdered daily in Islamic countries. Are you standing up for them or asking your fellow Muslims to stand up for them. Unless you do that, you and your ilks have no credibility whatsoever.
    What’s the big deal about Lowe’s pulling ads from a TV show. They very much have the freedom to do that.

  • docboss83

    First, Lowes is pathetic for bowing to the pressure of right wing Christian fundamentalists who are scared of Islam overtaking Christianity. That is where the bigotry of right wing Christians comes from. But frankly I am a bit tired of Eboo Patel constantly playing the drums of Islamophobia and Muslim victimhood. Does ANY American Muslim organization protest against the grave injustices against non-Muslims in Islamic countries? Saudi Arabia banning all places of worship besides a mosque and Mecca banning non-Muslims? Islam’s ban on homosexuality? Islam’s ban on apostasy? Pakistan’s pathetic treatment of Hindus, Ahmadis and Christians? The genocide on Hindus in Kashmir? In Bangladesh? Malaysia’s bigotry against non-Muslims? Iran beating unveiled women?

  • ccnl1

    Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/Disease:

    From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, “If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.”

    Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

    To wit;

    From a major Catholic university’s theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

    “Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
    Jesus and Mary’s bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

    Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

    Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus’ crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary’s corpse) into heaven did not take place.

    The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus’ earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

    Only Luke’s Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus’ mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus’ followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary’s special role as “Christ bearer” (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus’ Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary’s assumption also shows God’s positive regard, not only for Christ’s male body, but also for female bodies.” ”

    “In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this

  • ccnl1


    o “Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God’s hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus’ failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing.”

    o p.168. by Ted Peters:
    Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. ”

    o So where are the bones”? As per Professor Crossan’s analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

  • Kingofkings1

    Eboo, I can’t disagree with your main point, i.e. bridges must be 2 way streets, although I don’t think you have this issue down pat 100%

  • DeniseLynne

    Not a strategy, an principle and ethic. Core belief in all 3 Abrahamic faiths teach compassion and care for others, including standing up for the rights of others. And America was built and has grown under those same values. We can do nothing more American and pleasing to God than to care for each other.

  • DeniseLynne

    American Muslims are interested in what is happening in their own country – America. Many came here seeking the religious freedom denied to them in their countries of birth. Just as my ancestors came from Ireland after the Potato Famine and made this their home, so have Muslims from all over the world came here made the US their home. By choice, not providence.

  • DeniseLynne

    The persistent question: What are Muslims doing/saying about the mistreatment/persecution of non-Muslims in other countries? While I am outraged there is little I can do other than give lip service. I am an American and a Muslim and I am most concerned about my own country. I can’t affect change in the Middle East but I hope I can engage and inform my fellow countrymen.

  • ccnl1

    Luke was not an eyewitness. Ditto for Paul, Mark, Matthew and John. You might want to read some contemporary books on the New Testament. Good starting references are “An Introduction to the New Testament “by Raymond Brown and “Jesus After 2000 Years” by Gerd Ludemann.

  • ccnl1

    o Why Islam is bad for business!!!

    “Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.” (Surah 5:51)

    “Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons…he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home…” (Surah 8:12-)

    “Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme.” (Surah 8:36-)

    “…make war on the leaders of unbelief…Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them…” (Surah 9:12-)

    “Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]…until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.” (Surah 9:27-)

    “It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it.” (Surah 9:31-)

    “If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men.” (Surah 9:37-)

    “Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home.” (Surah 9:73)

    “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them.” (Surah 9:121-)

    “Say: ‘Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom…” (Surah 17:111)

    “‘How shall I bear a child,’ she [Mary] answered, ‘when I am a virgin…?’ ‘Such is the will of the Lord,’ he replied. ‘That is no difficult thing for Him…God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!…Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’ preach a monstrous falsehood…” (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88)

    “Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him…He has given you the name of Muslims…” (Surah 22:78-)

    “Blessed are the believers…who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)…T

  • DeniseLynne

    There is so much misunderstanding about the definition of unbeliever. Unbelievers are those People of the Book – Jews, Christians and Muslims -that turn their backs on the truth God revealed to them – the Torah, the Gosples and the Quran. All Jews, Christians an Muslims who follow the revelations given to each community by God are by Quranic definition Believers.
    Surah 3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong).

    4. Then those who reject Faith in the Signs of Allah will suffer the severest penalty, and Allah is Exalted in Might, Lord of Retribution.

    5. From Allah, verily nothing is hidden on earth or in the heavens.

    6. He it is Who shapes you in the wombs as He pleases. There is no god but He, the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

    7. He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:” and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.

  • DeniseLynne

    Social norms of thousands of years ago should be accepted as such. Prophet Abraham had his first son by a slave girl Hagar. The Quran affirms Mary’s virgin birth of Jesus, but same as the Jews do not accept Him as the begotten son of God. The meaning of the word Muslim is submission to God. The Quran celebrates Abraham as a Muslim.
    Surah 3:67. Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to God ]. And he was not of the polytheists.
    The bible uses alagory liberally and understanding the alagory in the Song of Solomon equating errotic love to man’s longing for an intimate spiritual relationship with God is no different than the alagory of the houris in the Quran.
    Houris have been incorrectly translated as virgins. Houris are Pure Companions. What form we will take in Heaven is unknown, so is the nature of our Pure Compamions.

  • ccnl1

    One more time and yet to have one Muslim debate the points of said deprogramming:

    Saving Muslimsis is quite easy!!! (developed by yours truly based on the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Imam Bayhaqi)

    The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
    ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

    Are you ready?

    Using “The 77 Branches of Islamic “faith” a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true “faith” (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings.” i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

    The First Five of the 77 Branches:

    “1. Belief in Allah”

    aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

    “2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence.”

    Evolution and the Big Bang or the “Gi-b G-nab” (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the “akas” for Allah should be included if you continue to be a “crea-tionist”.

    “3. To believe in the existence of angels.”

    A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No “pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies” ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and “tinker bells”. Modern devils are classified as the demons of the demented.

    “4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore.”

    Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven

  • DeniseLynne

    This post is not for ccnl1, as this person is beyond rational dialogue. First, Karen Armstrong is my favorite author and I have most of her works, including one that is out of print that took some time, and not so little coin to obtain.
    Second, the US recognizes more than 83 Protestant denominations in the US alone. That’s not counting all the store front churches. Allah is the Arabic word for God and since I am of Irish decent I use the English word for God, the same God of Abraham and Moses, of the Jews and the Christians and the Muslims. (Denise Lynne is my real name, no initials or codes)
    The (complete) Book in the Quran consists of multiple revelations – the Torah, the Psalms, the Gospels and the Quran. Each person believes as his heart dictates. The Jews follow the message they were given and while Christians believe the message is true and right, it is incomplete without the teaching of Jesus and the Gospels. Likewise, Christianity is incomplete without the message delivered via the Quran.
    As far as evolution and the Big Bang Theory, I personally believe it takes the discussion away from more important topics. The very first lines in the Quran are “Recite, in the name of God, who created man from a clot of blood.” So The Quran recognizes science from the beginning.
    Islam recognizes the same prophets as Judaism and Christianity and recognizes Jesus as a Mesiah. Since Islam teaches there is no compulsion in religion, one can chose to follow the teachings of God and his many, many messengers or not. How’s that for free will.

  • ccnl1

    They are called the Infamous Angelic Cons:

    Joe Smith had his Moroni.

    Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;

    Mohammed had his Gabriel (this “tinkerbell” got around).

    Jesus and his family had Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day demon of the demented.

    The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other “no-namers” to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.

    Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these “pretty wingie thingies” to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.

  • DeniseLynne

    The Gospels speak of true verse false prophets, not that there would not be any more. God gave his message from the beginning and the 4 “volumes” are the Torah, the Psalms, the Gospels and the Quran. Surah 5:3. “Today, I have completed your religion, perfected My blessing upon you, and I have decreed Submission as the religion for you.” So Mohammed is the seal of the Prophets. No prophets came after him, so Islam does not recognize John Smith as a prophet. That being said, in Islam there is no compulsion in faith so what another person believes is between him and God. Atheism is also up to the individual. God is merciful and if one lives a good and honorable life, come the Day of Judgement, his heart will be known to God.
    I follow all of God’s teachings beginning with the Torah.
    If you are speaking of Islamic Jurisprudence or the sharia, every country has its own version of laws based on its interpretation of the Quran and Hadiths. There are myriad schools of sharia. Just as there are dozens of different denominations within Christianity, based on different interpretations of the Gospels, so is Islam made up of different groups who have different interpretations of the Quran.

  • DeniseLynne

    Unfortunately, the Bible has been changed. The First Council of Nicea in 325 AD and again at the Second Council of Nicea, 787 AD. Then think of all the different English versions, Queen Elizabeth wanted a Bible based on the Church of England so she banned the Geneva Bible and commissioned the Bishop’s Bible completed in 1568. That we fine until King James had issues with that version and in 1601 we have the King James Bible. I have 9 different Bible versions in my personal library. The Quran has dozens of transliterations as well, there is no such thing as a translation.
    Islam is not a false religion, it is the same faith as Moses and Abraham, Soloman, Mathew, John the Baptist. We all believe the same thing, just that each of us has a little twist.
    I was a practicing Christian for 14 years and Istudied Islam for 3 years before I incorporated the teachings in the Quran. It was an evolution for me, one taken with much thought and soul searching. The version of Islam paraded in the media, some churches, synagogues and some mosques is very foreign and I do not recognize it. It would be like asking Jim Jones or David Kuresh about Christianity.
    35 years ago, it was the just my reading, my prayers and my mentor. No politics, no agenda, no hate. I was free to travel my journey, to listen to God.
    If you truly want to understand what Muslims believe, invite your neighbor for coffee, and have a conversation.

  • ccnl1

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today’s 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror?

    The koran, Mohammed’s book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere…………………………….

  • ccnl1

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today’s 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror?

    The koran, Mohammed’s book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no Muslim to include DeniseL can be trusted anytime or anywhere…………………………….

  • Catken1

    “Does ANY American Muslim organization protest against the grave injustices against non-Muslims in Islamic countries?”

    How much do Christians protest when countries like Uganda push for the death penalty for gay people?
    And will any protest by Muslims be loud enough for people to hear when they have their fingers in their ears shouting, “La, la, la, I can’t HEAR you because I’ve already decided you sympathize with terrorists and I’m not LISTENING to you tell me you don’t!”

  • Catken1

    “If I am wrong about Jesus, I lose nothing but a little “fun”.
    If I am right about Jesus, you lose everything forever.”

    So it’s really OK with you that your brothers and sisters “lose everything forever” and burn alive in agony forever because they believed the wrong thing? You’ll praise and flatter and fawn on the abusive father who tortures your siblings for holding the wrong thoughts in their head, or being taught the wrong thing? Some loving-kindness. (Oh, right, everyone deserves horrible torture just for existing. Forgot that bit. Even the good folks, who save kids and puppies and feed the hungry and care for the sick. Just for existing, they deserve worse punishment than Hitler would’ve gotten had we mere mortals had the sentencing of him.)
    Your God can’t forgive us for being imperfect, as we can’t help but be, without a human sacrifice, and he can only forgive those who “believe in” that sacrifice? Some omnipotence.

  • Catken1

    ScottinVA, what if you’re both wrong, and someone else’s religion is right? What if you lose not just a little “fun”, but are sentenced to the same hell you would see your non-Christian siblings sent to? Will you accept eternal agony as your due? Will you say, “Oh, well, I should’ve believed X and Y instead of what my parents and teachers taught me when I was small – I guess believing them was a crime, and I deserve this horrific punishment for it.”

  • DeniseLynne

    There are SO many! But we done get media coverage. To use a political term. To show Muslims as average, normal, and yes, compassionate is the wrong “optic”