5 Better Ways to Respond to the Charlie Hebdo Atrocity

Let’s check our reflexes and respond to this tragedy in ways that promote healing and truth.

I awoke today to texts, emails, tweets, and Facebook messages of the horrific attack on Charlie Hebdo. The stabbing pain of innocent life lost resonated through my heart. These are volatile times, and this volatile situation only adds to the fire.

As one of some 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide, the additional inescapable thought crossed my mind: “Please don’t let the culprits be Muslim.”

Early reports indicate, however, that ISIS apologists may be behind this atrocity.

No shortage of condemnations from Muslims of all sects and nationalities exist to rebuke this horrific atrocity. With that in mind, as a human family we must consider more than mere condemnation. Here are five things to remember.

1. Do not forget to respond with peace, patience, and justice

Violence begets violence. Emotions are high — as anyone would expect — and so are fears. At such times it is critical to maintain order, peace, and let the government get to work. Responding or retaliating against individual citizens will only perpetuate fear, distrust, and violence. Maintaining calm will allow the government to divert its full resources to capturing and bringing the culprits responsible to justice.

We are better than the culprits and must rise above their intolerance with our peace, patience, and justice.

2. Do not forget to mourn and pray with those who have lost loved ones

Dozens of families are mourning the loss of their loved ones. No good will come by forgetting their suffering and ignoring their needs. Mourn and pray with those who are suffering because they, more than anyone, are experiencing a particularly horrific time in their lives. With constant media and many unanswered questions, it is likewise critical to respect the privacy of those families who lost loved ones.

3. Don’t forget that Muslims in France, and worldwide, are just as pained

Muslims in fact condemn this attack. So don’t sit waiting for Muslims to condemn this attack before you believe that they too are hurting. French Muslims and Muslims worldwide are as pained by this attack as any time innocent lives are lost.

Muslims are not the culprits — they are just as much the victim of this attack because our fellow human beings at Charlie Hebdo lost their lives. Terrorism impacts us all, and we must all remain united in its condemnation and eradication.

4. Do not forget that blaming Islam or Prophet Muhammad does more harm than good

Separate the criminal act from Islam and Prophet Muhammad. Nothing in Islam justifies this horrific attack. Nothing in Prophet Muhammad’s example justifies this horrific attack. The Qur’an declares, “to kill one innocent life . .  is to kill all humanity” (5:33). Likewise Prophet Muhammad declared, “A Muslim is one from whose hand and tongue, all others are safe.” The greatest insult to Islam and Muhammad are not these cartoons.

In fact, nothing in the Qur’an or hadith permits any form of worldly punishment for mockery or blasphemy. Such a right is strictly in God’s domain, and no human being has the authority to infringe. Thus, in performing this attack, the culprits violate both their duty to serve humanity and their duty to not infringe on God’s domain. The greatest insults to Islam and Muhammad are the barbaric acts of violence purportedly committed in their name.

5. Do not forget that now, more than ever, we must maintain dialogue

Horrible incidents like the Charlie Hebdo attack reemphasize the dire need for ongoing dialogue and understanding. Rather than learning about each other from news media or from extremists, let’s learn from each other about one another. This requires stepping out of our comfort zones and struggling through the narratives that wish to divide us. This is not easy, but it is necessary and effective. People do not go to war because they maintained too much dialogue or respect for one another. Let us rise above the intolerance and terrorism these culprits wish to push on us and use compassion and education to unite against extremism.

 

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The ISIS menace is a plague upon humanity. The antidote is education, compassion, and dialogue. I’m part of an international “Stop The CrISIS” campaign, which delivers lectures and promotes dialogue at universities, libraries, and houses of worship to counter ISIS terrorism. Join our conversation at #StopTheCrISIS, connect with fellow Muslims, and let’s continue to work together to unify humanity against all forms of extremism.

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  • http://www.worthynews.com/ Joe DeCaro

    Qasim Rashid is being disingenuous with his use of ellipses.

    “We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people …”

    The command applies to Jews, not Muslims; further, the verse doesn’t use the word “innocent” anywhere in any translation.
    Finally, a person can be killed for murder or for spreading mischief in the land, which is defined in 5:33 as “execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides …”

    • nadeem

      @ Joe
      You need to re understand the ideas here. All commandments to
      all Prophets (Peace be on them all) are applicable to Muslims unless
      specifically changed – like change of Qibla. And the jest of the message
      is same as Qasim mentioned that murder of an innocent is unacceptable.
      And
      One more thing to add here is that its not upon any individual to be
      judge who is innocent and who is not – its a collective judgement which
      can be declared by the Court or the Government. And we, especially
      anyone with extremist approach, must realize that any Decisions made by
      Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) – were not his personal judgments or personal
      acts of anger or revenge, but were collective judgments, he had to make
      as a head of the state, who was obliged to decide justly for the people
      of his domain, Muslims or Non Muslims alike.

      • http://www.worthynews.com/ Joe DeCaro

        When fully translated, anyone can understand that this Quranic command doesn’t even apply to Muslims, and Rashid’s dishonest use of ellipses in partially quoting the verse only makes it all the more deceitful.
        Further, Islam’s use of abrogation adds confusion to that deceit — not every reader knows or even agrees on what verses have been superseded since all the text in the Quran is considered “sacred” and can’t be removed.

        • nadeem

          Well – if the said verses are not applicable to Muslims then to whom? Jews do not read Quran! And again you need to understand the simple fact that all teaching for all Prophets are applicable to Muslim, unless Specifically changed, that’s why Muslims are supposed to believe in all the Prophets (PeaceBeUponThem All) and also their Teachings and their Books.
          And yes their may be some difference of opinions about some certain verses – but people with ill intension always find excuses in all religions or even with no religion. If you like you can quote here some certain verse and i can try to explain. Thanks.

          • http://www.worthynews.com/ Joe DeCaro

            So now “the Children of Israel” are Muslims?

            And thanks, but no thanks for any more explanatory spin on the verses of the Quran, including the default excuse that no one can fully understand the Quran unless its read it in the original Arabic.

          • nadeem

            Yes, many if not all children of Israel are Muslims.If a Muslim accepts Israel (Jacob – Grandson of Ibrahim), Yousef and Moses and David and Suleman and Jesus (PBUThem) and others as a Prophets of God then they must obey there teachings as well. Its simple and clear. No Muslim denies that, so why you are pushing them here to deny it?
            And i am not one of those who say you need to know Arabic – you need to have a clear heart before the language. Quran itslef says that it is “Hudallil Muttaqeen” A Guidance for ones with pure hearts or who have Godly Consciousness. You may decide as you like but Thanks for your valued input..

          • http://www.worthynews.com/ Joe DeCaro

            Israel has nothing to do with Ishmael, whom God rejected.
            And no one who has a clear heart would quote a verse out of the Quran with so much of it missing.

          • nadeem

            “Israel has nothing to do with Ishmael, whom God rejected.” you are making biased claims here, which have no grounds. So open your heart pls and do not play Israel or God. Can you quote something directly from God or from Israel, or from other Prophets of Israel about this? And no Abrogations or interpretations pls!

            I can agree that Qasim shud have given full and exact quote here but i also understand that the message is still the same.

          • http://www.worthynews.com/ Joe DeCaro

            So, “to kill one innocent life … is to kill all humanity” is the same as “We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people …”?
            Murder is plain enough, but what exactly is “mischief in the land”?

            And the claim I made is grounded in both testaments of the Bible: Genesis 21:10-12 and Galatians 4: 21-31.

          • nadeem

            Don’t just be against someone just because of jealousy or biasness. If I accept Bible’s story as it is still your reference from Genesis goes against you… 21:13 God says to Abrahim, “And of the son of the maid I will make a nation also, because he is your descendant.” 18: tells that an Angel says to Hager: … “Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him by the hand, for I will make a great nation of him.” Do Angels speak to rejected ones like this?
            Other references are irrelevant – they are just interpretations – no direct world of any Angel, Prophet or God Himself.
            One more thing – Don’t you know that that Children of Israel have actually been enslaved for long times in different places? Joseph (PBUH) lived in Slavery in Egypt for many years then other Israelite did under Egypt, Syria and then Rome. If Physical slavery is a stigma forever then it goes to children or Israel more than others! I believe its mental slavery that makes you down spiritually, not the physical slavery, which may end now or then.

          • http://www.worthynews.com/ Joe DeCaro

            Speaking of “mental slavery,” as long as Muslims follow the Quran they will be perpetually enslaved to sharia and jihad.

            All of Islam is a nation of rejects who — when they are not persecuting Jews and Christians — are at odds with one another, e.g., Sunni and Shia.

          • nadeem

            To some extent i can agree. The actual problem is that they do not follow the directions of faith, they follow their egos and angers or they follow others. If Gods Word is correct and if Islam has some truth in it, then its upto God to help it out. I don’t worry about that and you should not either.
            And looks like you agree to my points above. I appreciate. Thanks

          • http://www.worthynews.com/ Joe DeCaro

            There are more than enough “Sword verses” in the Quran to support all of Islam’s egotism and anger.

          • nadeem

            (22:38-39) Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were
            wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.

            [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because
            they say, “Our Lord is Allah .” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.
            This is the true teachings which will be found in all religions, but people with corrupted minds may miss use them (or they may be miss used) for their personal, or some times what they call it “national interest”!

          • http://www.worthynews.com/ Joe DeCaro

            “Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged.
            And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory….” over Charlie Hebdo?
            This “true teaching” is not found in all religions, but it is central to Islam.

          • nadeem

            Fighting back is allowed in all religions – but only in certain conditions as described in the verses quoted earlier. And if no one is allowed to fight back then there wont be any Christian or Jews or Hindus or else left today.
            Anyways I do not support any attacks on the news paper or any one who misuse the Divine permissions. Those who attack they actually help people like you to attack the real Islam which is peaceful. Anyways i can understand your frustration – i am even more worried and pained – but i have explained enough and i hope you will not insist to resist for something just and righteous. Thanks again!

          • http://www.worthynews.com/ Joe DeCaro

            Islam really means “submission,” which when obtained by force, is by no means peaceful.

          • nadeem

            Well you are talking in anger for those few who misuse the label of Islam. Anyways, Islam also means submission, but to the wish of the Creator, not to personal or national or international gains or proxies.

          • http://www.worthynews.com/ Joe DeCaro

            Islam always means submission, often by force, coercion and/or deception.

            And if there are only a few who “misuse the label of Islam,” why is Islamic terrorism practiced world-wide?

          • nadeem

            More than a billion Muslims – still unfortunately few become part of agitations or national or international proxies, mostly with out even understanding the real situations and cause for fighting. And who are hurt more than others? Yes its Muslims themselves. Its not that simple to fix all the chaos. Anyways Thanks for your concerns.

  • http://deathofjesus.blogspot.in/ Mohammad Kashif Khalid

    strange that people get hurt by cartoons
    but not by blood.. .. Charlie was murdered for what ??? his
    cartoons didn’t harm much to # Islam than these bloody
    terrorists .. # JeSuisCharlie # IslamIsPeace

  • georgex9

    I think we can assume that religious fundamentalism is at the root of these killings. Radical teachings based on assumed beliefs can cause people to lose their humanity. Look at what has been going on in the Islamist countries. Now France has many Muslims who recently immigrated there and France tries to extend religious freedoms to them. They have tried to stop the dress in black robes that hide women almost completely. Should we allow children to be indoctrinated in made up belief systems? Can we allow radical religious leaders freedom to teach ideas which are anti-social and anti-humanistic.

    • mhz0282

      That would be a poor assumption. Religious fundamentalism is a branch here, not a root. This is far more complex than that. And France’s state enforced secularism is far from religious freedom. Honestly, if you go find an everyday French Muslim and ask them how they feel about how the state treats them, you’ll probably learn a lot.

      • Tiger

        Good post.

  • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

    Do you support the right of Charlie Hebdo to print blasphemous cartoons of Muhammad or any other religious figure?

    • mhz0282

      As a Muslim and a human being, I absolutely support to the fullest extent any person’s liberty to express their thoughts, no matter how blasphemous or offensive to me. Charlie Hedbo’s work was really just bigoted nonsense – aimed at not just Muslims, but Jews, Catholics, and racial minorities – but they still of course didn’t deserve to die for that. As Qasim points out, it’s an important part of our beliefs that mockery or blasphemy of the religion is not for us humans to judge and punish. We Muslims have to keep emphasizing to each other not to let anger and marginalization boil over into making individuals think they should play God.

      • Laurence Charles Ringo

        Seriously, mhzo282? So, can we assume that those Islamic nations that have actually made blasphemy illegal per their judicial systems ( Pakistan,anyone? ) didn’t get the memo about not punishing those who have presumably blasphemed not just your prophet but your supposed holy book as well? It is literally a capital offense in Pakistan to speak against either,and as you well know, more likely than not lynch mobs trumps the judiciary in many of these cases.So…I would suggest that Islam is in need of a modern-day”Martin Luther”and a Reformation, badly.

        • nadeem

          Feedom comes with responsibility and there are laws everywhere which stops people hurting others just because they have freedom? Can you call others names because of freedom?
          Also to note that these laws exist in India/PK since 1920s which were introduced by the British Government to stop riots and chaotic situations caused by some irresponsible use of freedom. And yes Pakistan has gone too far – they not only have stricter Laws but The Government has nourished an environment which allows people to attack others and get away with that (which is more serious problem). Also they do not have laws which can question the wrong doer or those who put false charges on others.
          Also i agree that Islam needs reformation – Reformation is coming but it is delayed, cause of those who promote and use wars to gain their proxies? I wish they do not add fuel to the fire, which is already burning lots of homes. I wish they solve their issues peacefully and justly on tables. In any case the reformation is bound to come and it will come through pen not with gen (gun).

        • mhz0282

          Your mistake is in equating Islam with these tyrannical governments. There are plenty of Muslim majority countries where this isn’t a crime. Those governments need reform, not Islam.

          Your use of Pakistan is an example highlights your failure to understand the difference between religion and government. Pakistan has always been majority Muslim, but it only became radicalized after the US empowered radicals in an effort to prevent Soviet expansion during the Cold War. Pakistan wasn’t like this before.

    • Striker

      “Do you support the right of Charlie Hebdo to print blasphemous cartoons of Muhammad or any other religious figure?”

      bien sûr!

      • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

        I’m glad to hear it. But sadly it isn’t as obvious as you and I think.

    • nadeem

      I never support those who choose bigger non sense to attack in retaliation. your question is really a tricky one, hmmm I might support but let me ask you, does anyone really have “The Right to publish Nonsense”? What purpose does he really get out of that?

      • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

        “The Right to publish Nonsense?” YES!!!! I live in America and all Fox News does is publish nonsense, but I support their right to say it. The Torah, the Bible, and the Koran are all nonsense, but I support your right to publish and even believe that nonsense even though it is a threat to human happiness, human prosperity, and even human survival on this planet. You don’t censor nonsense, you expose it! One of the ways you expose nonsense is through satire. If you are offended by satire, then there is a good bet that satire has exposed your beliefs to be nonsense. Your house of cards has been blown down and all you can do is attempt to censor the wind.

        • nadeem

          “Do I have the Right to call you and your family names” Just because i believe you and your family are all non sense! Come on grow up my friend. You get nothing out of it but just soothe your anger and hatred and jealousies. When people of short tamper cannot bring forth any logic, they start abusing others. i wish you come out of anger and say something better.

          • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

            Wow, where do I start with this? First let me say that I am sorry that you believe me and my family are all nonsense. That is your opinion and you are entitled to have that opinion however hateful that opinion is. This is what I am talking about when I say that I support the rights of Fox News and the KKK even though they are hateful and I strongly disagree with them. Personally, I believe all people are special and I value the lives and well-being of everyone.

            I find it strange that you would call me angry and hateful when you just claimed that me and my family are nonsense. It seems that the anger and the hate is on you. You are the one after all who gets so angry that your beliefs and ideas are questioned, mocked, and/or satirized that you would defend those who murder others for disagreement.

            Like i said, if your beliefs and ideas could stand up to logic and reason, you wouldn’t have a problem with people mocking and satirizing them. Mocking bad ideas and poorly reasoned beliefs exposes them for what they are. If your beliefs and ideas have any validity, then satire and mocking of those beliefs wouldn’t bother you at all.

            To be clear here, all beliefs and ideas are fair game when it comes to mockery and satire. This is different from mocking actual people. All people should be respected, but ridiculous beliefs people hold should me mocked and satirized. If you don’t want your beliefs mocked, then I would suggest that you stop holding to ridiculous beliefs.

            Ultimately, I strongly support the rights of everyone to publish or say whatever opinion they might hold — even opinions I do not share and opinions I do not respect. Those opinions will be examined in the free marketplace of ideas and if those opinions are nonsense, then they will be exposed as such.

            I happen to believe that most religious ideas are nonsense and so I encourage religious believers to share their ridiculous beliefs so that I can expose those beliefs for the nonsense that they are. Christians claim Jesus was born of a virgin. That’s nonsense!!! We all know that’s nonsense. If I told you that I was born of a virgin, you wouldn’t believe me. Nor should you without some valid compelling evidence. So when someone tells me that their religious leader was born of a virgin, I have to laugh. I’m not laughing at them for believing it, but I am laughing at the absurdity of that belief.

          • nadeem

            U wrote, “All people should be respected, but ridiculous beliefs…” Good – now you are coming to the point – questioning or reasoning sometime in light mood is all ok (which may also some satire in it) – but mocking or calling names and/or to the extent to personal attacks or beating or killing – is unwanted and unacceptable to any sensible person.
            I can reason for the belief of Christ’s birth but i have no RIGHT to mock at the Personal Character of Marry or Jesus (Peace be on them). If i do, some may say Bravo but i break the trust of my liberty and I wud loose my dignity in the end of the day, so i shud be wise enough to start with my freedom.
            I did not say that i believe that you or your family are bad – i just asked you the question what if start abusing them and say that i can say all that because i have the “Right” – There is no actual RIGHT for doing something wrong otherwise every thief or robber may also say the same thing. Anyways its not a matter of Right – its just a matter of abusing your freedom which shud be and wud be discredited with the passage of time.
            And Freedom is a trust and responsibility that is put on you by your Creator or some time by your family or nation and you are expected to use it wisely to cause good in society, not to cause problems and riots. Thanks

          • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

            Again, people have the right to be assholes. If you want to call me names, I will defend your right to do so. That doesn’t mean that you should do it, but your right to do it is important. I would point out that when people resort to name calling and violence, they have lost the argument. So in that sense, I encourage the name calling.

            Second, Jesus and Mary aren’t real people. They are fictional characters from ancient myths. Plus, even if they were real, dead people don’t get hurt feelings. So I have no problem mocking Jesus especially if doing so points out the absurdity of belief.

            This goes to a question of morality. Morality is based on the well-being of sentient creatures, not the unknown whims of imaginary deities. The reason why name-calling is immoral is that it is directed at actual people. Still, as immoral as it might be, it would be even more immoral to outlaw it or to threaten and/or commit violence because of it. You don’t return hate with violence. You return it with love and kindness. The actions of those who murdered because of cartoons they did not like should not be defended. They were morally wrong! The cartoonists have the right and the moral duty to express themselves freely. If you don’t like what they have to say, expose it for the hate that you believe it to be. Point out the problems with their satire. Don’t defend their killers!

          • nadeem

            Who is defending the killers here?

            You sound like saying that – you have the right of something just because you can do that – well every wrong doer can use this logic then including the killers.
            And neither you nor i am judge of morality – and known norms does not approve of calling others names or abusing someone who is respected by billions. If some one decides to do it because he can (not as a right because Right is earned), then people with sense will raise there voice against them.

            One more thing – No false religion can survive amidst test of times and which has so many sacrifices and witnesses behind its back. So Jesus is also one of the realities which cannot be a myth (some details of events may be a myth – which can be questioned) – if you say he or his mother are just myths then the whole History of Christians and Jews and Israelite and their old Prophets will all be wrong. Nay not so.
            As i say yes there are some logical questions about his birth, his miracles and then his death or resurrection, but to discredit his existence altogether is just another myth or may be stubbornness to some extant. Thanks

          • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

            You are defending the killers here. I asked if you agree that Charlie Hebdo has the right to publish what they did and you said that was “tricky.” This was not a trick question! They absolutely have that right.

            Again, you misrepresented what I said. Just because someone can do a thing doesn’t me they should do that thing. Nor does it mean they have the right to that thing. And just because someone has the right to do something doesn’t mean they should exercise that right, but it does mean that their right should be defended. The right of free speech and free expression must be defended. In fact, if that speech and expression offends someone then it is the very speech that needs to be defended.

            What do you mean no one can judge morality? Of course people can judge morality? Who can? Rabbits? Human beings must judge morality. Morality is based on the well-being of sentient creatures. As sentient creatures we must make moral judgments.

            Yes, the whole history according to the Torah and the Bible are false!!! Real historians have already proven then. The Exodus in the Bible never happened!!! This is a fact. The Jews were never slaves in Egypt. That never happened. In fact, much (bordering on all) of the “history” of the Bible is fictional.

            These religions survive because anyone who criticizes them have been threatened, coerced, and/or murdered. But this is coming to an end now. The internet is changing the playing field. Atheists are starting to get the word out. We are starting to start spreading actual facts and religious believers hate that. This is why you wish to censor free speech. Because if atheists aren’t allowed to tell the truth, you can just claim victory. Well those days are over! Religion is losing it’s grip and more and more people are starting to see religious beliefs for the absurdity that they are.

          • nadeem

            I don’t mind if you believe in any established religion – Religion means a path, and if you like to have your own path or religion that’s fine with me.
            Which words of mine suggest defending the killers? None! In fact I believe that they hurt Islam and Muslims more than anybody else.

            I do also have reservations about some Religious beliefs but i still accept the fact that no one can devise and then establish a religion unless people see some truth and steadfastness in that. People of religion do not coerce or curse others nor they stop others to ask questions but they them selves have this ban on their expression or speech – so it takes heavy tolls and sacrifices before they earn the right to exist or to express themselves. Most of the nations are built on the sacrifices for religious beliefs – can you deny this fact?
            Anyways – “Right” is still not the apt word but you can say that they had the right to choose from different choices and sure they chose the low level one, out of their hatred or jealousy.
            Anyways I pray for the betterment and safety of all! AMen! Thanks.

          • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

            “People of religion do not coerce or curse others nor they stop others to ask questions…” Really?

            At what age did you become indoctrinated into religion? Religion is coerced on to children before they can walk and talk much less think critically for themselves. Religion dominates society and serves as a constant coercive effect on the masses. People who are do not accept religious beliefs are demonized and in many countries arrested and executed for their lack of belief, but you claim there is no coercion? Tell that to people like Raif Badawi who just last week received 50 lashes for being an atheist in Saudi Arabia. Or Alber Sabre who was arrested and beat up nearly to death in jail for being an atheist in Egypt. But you don’t think that is a form of coercion? Where do you live? Even in America, coming out as an atheist has actual consequences just for not believing. I have had friends who have lost their jobs, had their children threatened, and even been threatened themselves by “peace-loving Christians.” Don’t take my word for it, try an experiment and pretend to be an atheist publicly for a week. See what happens. Tell your friends, family, and co-workers that you are having doubts about the existence of Allah and see if there is any coercion. I dare you. Depending on where you live, that just might be akin to suicide.So don’t tell me people of religion do not coerce or curse other nor do they stop others from asking questions. That’s bullshit!!!!

          • nadeem

            Why are you so hateful against religion? I am An Ahmadi Muslim who themselves are demonized and persecuted in the name of religion in many parts of the world. You may google that if you like.

            I was telling you that no religion can survive when its followers are week and only few to start with, they are shut up by every quarter. They want freedom of speech but are not allowed to express them selves – neither they can nor they coerce. The early followers have to offer great sacrifice keep their faith alive. And yes people who have disease in their hearts later on, start misusing the same faith for their personal or national or international gains. So its not the religion – its human mischief that is more to blame. Thanks

          • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

            This is the second time you have accused me of hate for supporting the right of every person to speech freely. The way I see it, it is much more hateful to prevent people from speaking freely than it is to speak out against such an injustice.

            The fact of the matter is that your religion and every other religion is a house of cards and so you all lash out against anyone who questions your unjustified “truth.” Your beliefs are false and you know it. This is why you are so offended when people point that out to you. This is the real reason you think criticism of religion is “tricky.”

            The fact is that all religions use indoctrination, coercion, and the threat of violence in order to maintain control. Anyone who criticizes your methods and beliefs are labeled “hateful” and/or threatened with force. Even the Pope said that if you speak ill of religion you should expect to be punched in the face. And this is supposed to be the “good Pope.” Laughable.

          • nadeem

            You are saying what you want – no one is forcing you to say or not to say. i am just pointing out that you also have a path of belief or understanding or Religion, you may name it no-religion or atheism or what ever, but you still do.
            Now i have the right to mind to ignore or to reply your points, so i am trying to understand your point and trying to reply. Pope is saying what he sees appropriate. Why you bother about that?
            I am a big supporter of Freedom of speech, but off course with responsibility. Now i believe if you run your own home or society or government, you wud also have some regulations, and laws to run it with peace! Thanks.

          • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

            You still don’t understand. Speech isn’t free unless you allow speech you don’t like or agree with. You are claiming that people are free to say whatever they like as long as you agree with what they say. That isn’t free speech!!! None of your beliefs or ideas can ever be challenged if you don’t allow for disagreement. Satire is a form of disagreement.

            Sure, there are always rules and regulations. For speech issues, you can’t yell fire in a crowded room. You can’t libel or slander someone. But ideas and beliefs are completely on the table. Ideas and beliefs can and should be challenged and those challenges should be protected no matter how much they might “offend” your sensibilities.

            As for your comment about me being religious or whatever, that is just your attempt at distraction.

          • nadeem

            You said , “you can’t yell fire in a crowded room. You can’t libel or slander someone….” that’s what i have been trying to explain that tho you can do things but you don’t take it as a right to do bad things. Questioning ideas or even persons character or personality is a different thing and insulting or calling .people names is totally a different situation. And i do support questioning or reasoning even if i don’t agree with.because that’s how truth shows up. Thanks

  • Sam

    As with all religions number 4 needs more emphasis.

    One day with patience and love it will be. Until then we abide and struggle for justice.

  • Darknight

    There will never be a resolve to this kind of terrorism until Muslims themselves start to reinterpret the Koran. Anyone with a clear head that reads this book will find out that just like the Bible, it is very violent and no the best code of conduct for modern humans. If moderate Muslims keep insisting that this are the words of Allah and should be respected then they must accept that their God is violent and no good for humankind. The Bible is not infallible and so is the Koran. Christians now know that of their holy book after centuries of bloodshed. It is the time for Islam to confront the filth in Koran that lets idiots like this brothers to act this way.

    • nadeem

      There is no filth in Quran – it has actually removed filth from billions of people but yes there are those who insist to keep their filth – in that case should Quran or Bible or any other Book force them?

      • Darknight

        Really? No filth in the Quran? Removed filth from billions of people? Have you even ever read all of the Quran or just cherry pick the ones you like? Let me refresh your memory in graphic detail:
        Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” ISIS is not delusional, they are following your Holy Quran:

        The above is just to let you know where ISIS gets its filth. Now anyone with a Quran should verify the following verses: Religion of Peace? you are fucking kidding me. Have your fill:

        Don’t bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7

        Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor. 2:10

        If you try to compose a surah that is better than those in the Quran, and then fail, Allah will burn you forever if you in the fire that he has prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

        Allah will shed human blood while angels praise him in heaven. (The angels question why Allah has to kill people; Allah says they’d understand if they knew everything like he does.) 2:30

        They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein.” 2:39

        There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48

        Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50

        “Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire.” 2:81

        Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85

        “They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom.” 90

        “For disbelievers is a painful doom.” 2:104

        Allah will make disbelievers’ lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114

        “And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire.” (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119

        Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

        The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

        “On the day when they behold the doom and all their aims collapse with them … Allah is severe punishment!” 2:165-6

        They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167